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  • I am pro-gun, and I would want a gun.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    No I would take other measures to ensure their safety like I have right now on my home. End of the day if a group of armed men enter your home your in trouble regardless of whether you are armed or not. Your already outnumbered, outgunned and you have to worry about your familys safety as well as your own. A gun will only take you so far as countless soldiers have learned over the years.
    having one is sure a better scenario then not unless your home is such that you can barricade everyone into an impregnable safe room and wait for the cops or you can control an access point with a sword and hack to death anyone who tries to breach it



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    No I would take other measures to ensure their safety like I have right now on my home. End of the day if a group of armed men enter your home your in trouble regardless of whether you are armed or not. Your already outnumbered, outgunned and you have to worry about your familys safety as well as your own. A gun will only take you so far as countless soldiers have learned over the years.
    Don't assume our ability to fight back is any less than what is being brought to us. Force can and will be met with force. Well practiced and trained force.
    But you keep thinking everyone is a defenseless lamb.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    having one is sure a better scenario then not unless your home is such that you can barricade everyone into an impregnable safe room and wait for the cops or you can control an access point with a sword and hack to death anyone who tries to breach it
    Yes and no, I'm sure there are plenty of situations where a armed homeowner has made a situation worse.

    Again its pretty extreme example.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Don't assume our ability to fight back is any less than what is being brought to us. Force can and will be met with force. Well practiced and trained force.
    But you keep thinking everyone is a defenseless lamb.
    Don't assume that the armed group are not also well trained professionals? Works both ways.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Yes and no, I'm sure there are plenty of situations where a armed homeowner has made a situation worse.

    Again its pretty extreme example.
    mainly from the invaders' perspective



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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    mainly from the invaders' perspective
    Like I said no one is getting into my house without myself, my street and the authorities knowing. Would be far too much of a hassle for any armed group ( not that I have to worry about armed groups where I live)
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    Don't assume that the armed group are not also well trained professionals? Works both ways.
    Well that is no reason not to put up a fight.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Well since the entire point of the post seems to simply attempt to call “anti-gunners” hypocrites, I’ll deal with the actual meat of it.Your premise is flawed. Wanting something, and feeling like you should legally be able to do it, are two different things.If I had a daughter rand someone raped her, I would want to punch that person repeatedly until their face resembled ground beef. Simply wanting to do that do doesn’t mean I think I should be legally allowed to be. Wanting to do that doesn’t mean I’m a hypocrite for being in favor of laws against battery.Not to mention the argument is equally flawed because one can be a “anti-gun” (based on how many use it) and still be perfectly fine with firearm ownership. Unless you’re qualifying “anti-gunners” SINGULARLY as people who want to ban ALL guns. Someone who wants a lot of regulation, background checks, ammo limitations, etc. could ABSOLUTELY still have a gun in their house in the situation you explained. You didn’t say “At that point would you wish you had an unregistered gun that isn’t locked in any way and that was purchased without a waiting period of a background check”.All those things I just said are stuff that people point to as a means of declaring someone as “anti-gun”, and yet none of those things I listed would have automatically prevented that person from potentially having a gun in the scenario you concocted. Your entire hypothetical is ridiculous given the actual intention behind it, as it in no way actually indicates what you’re trying to suggest it does.
    I am a gun owner and have ABSOLUTELY no idea what it means to be "anti-gun"

    I think gun ownership is about responsibility.

    Private gun ownership can be about sport or self protection.

    Self protection means protecting yourself from situations that come to you, not situations that you instigate .

    People with anger management issues should probably not own and carry firearms.

    I dislike the NRAs influence in politics as much as I dislike union and big business influence in politics.

    Yeah, I will say it....we do not need guns with magazines that can hold enough rounds to kill a dozen people in one fell swoop.

    If you have a conceal and carry permit and you are on legal or illegal mind altering drugs (or etoh)- you should not be carrying your gun.

    I think gun shows need to be better regulated.

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Well that is no reason not to put up a fight.
    I would rather spend the time and money on making my house harder to break into. It almost seems like some of you on here would welcome a situation like this so you could put your arsenal to use.
    ‘This is not peace, it is an armistice for 20 years.’ (Ferdinand Foch. After the Treaty of Versailles, 1919).

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    Re: Would you want a gun in this situation?

    The most absurd point of view expressed here is the one that requires people to be absolute in their beliefs and convictions under all circumstances or else they are hypocrites. One can be pro life while accepting there are circumstances that makes abortion necessary without being a hypocrite. One can be peace loving and anti-violence and still use force, even violence, to defend another without being a hypocrite. And one can strongly believe that a society without guns is a more safe, more advanced society, and still use a gun in self defense or to protect others without being a hypocrite.

    Tens of thousands of people are spared serious injury or death each year because they are wearing a seat belt and shoulder strap in their vehicle and/or the air bags deployed. The rare case in which a seat belt or air bag contributed to somebody's injury or death is not a compelling argument to not have seat belts and air bags in vehicles.

    To make everything an absolute either/or principle or situation is pure ideology misapplied and has no basis for people able to employ critical thinking and understand that few things are absolute in every single situation.
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