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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    I agree this is why your posts are so far behind because dictionaries, encyclopedia, sociology and facts all prove your statments wrong and you fail to grasp that reality. all of them
    It doesn't matter what those dictionaries or encyclopedia say, Agent.

    ecofarm is arguing that we need to CHANGE that meaning, so countering his position with those definitions really doesn't mean anything.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    ecofarm is arguing that we need to CHANGE that meaning, so countering his position with those definitions really doesn't mean anything.
    We don't need to change the meaning. We just need people to see the meaning of the concept. Every sociology department sees the meaning, because the perspective is at the social level. No individual 'does racism'.

    He did racism.
    He's doing racism.
    He's racisiming


    Never seen it.

    Why?



    Because it's not a ****ing individual act.

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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    It doesn't matter what those dictionaries or encyclopedia say, Agent.

    ecofarm is arguing that we need to CHANGE that meaning, so countering his position with those definitions really doesn't mean anything.
    no what he said and has said many times is that minorities and people in power can not be racist or practice racism. That is factually wrong.

    Now if he has an opinion that it should be changed, thats fine by me But his OPINION doesn't change anythign currently and it still has ZERO support. There are factual words that already describe what he is talking about and its already handled. Racism/racist are based off the word RACE lol. Not powerism not impactism, racism. His OPINION is factually wrong and the argument to change it is mentally inept and illogical.

    Why would we ever change the words RACIST and RACISM to including somethign that has nothing to do with RACE. that is mentally retarded.

    So my post means exactly what it need to mean. "His statments are factually wrong"
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We don't need to change the meaning. We just need people to see the meaning of the concept. Every sociology department sees the meaning, because the perspective is at the social level. No individual 'does racism'.
    I've always understood the term "racism" to mean "belief that a race is less (important, smart, whatever) because of their race".

    Of course, it also applies to some kind of overarching societal belief that one race is better than another.

    If you're arguing that it ONLY applies to the societal belief, that IS a change in definition.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I've always understood the term "racism" to mean "belief that a race is less (important, smart, whatever) because of their race".

    Of course, it also applies to some kind of overarching societal belief that one race is better than another.

    If you're arguing that it ONLY applies to the societal belief, that IS a change in definition.
    Racism is a social construct and thereby must be defined in social context. This always has been and always will be, individual ignorance notwithstanding.

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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    1.)We don't need to change the meaning.
    2.) We just need people to see the meaning of the concept.
    3.) Every sociology department sees the meaning, because the perspective is at the social level. No individual 'does racism'.

    4.)He did racism.
    He's doing racism.
    He's racisiming


    Never seen it.

    Why?



    Because it's not a ****ing individual act.
    1.) correct
    2.) they already do, join in with the honest and educated people
    3.) already proven factually false. Repeat this lie 800 more times. Each time it will be laughed at and there will be zero support to make it true. This is why you keep dodging the request to provide any.
    4.) correct because that would be improper english

    he practiced racism
    he is doing racist things
    he is involved in racism


    by your broken and factually wrong logic

    he did Athleticism
    he is doing Athleticism
    he's Athleticisming

    never seen it guess that means Athleticism is not an individual thing
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) bigotry has nothing to do with the question in the OP
    and to answer your question the answer is no because im not discussing any OPINIONS here.
    2.) this is also false the context is MINE LMAO and the OP and the definition of racism/racist. There is no other context.

    if you disagree simply answer this question, its a yes no question.

    Can a minority and person not in power be racist and practice racism? yes or no?
    Yes.

    But I still agree with eco on the social impact not being the same. It's an unfortunate double standard that is based in cultural standards, not law. Though there have been various legal actions taken to instill balance.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    1Racism is a social construct and thereby must be defined in social context.
    2.)This always has been and always will be, individual ignorance notwithstanding.
    1.)yep and its factually practiced as a group or an individual
    2.) also correct see each of your factually incorrect posts
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    1.)Yes.
    2.) But I still agree with eco on the social impact not being the same.
    3.) It's an unfortunate double standard that is based in cultural standards, not law. Though there have been various legal actions taken to instill balance.
    1.) very good thank you and this is why his statement is wrong.
    2.) so do i, i agree 100% never racism by different people can have different impact. But it has ZERO impact on the word racism and his statement is factually wrong.
    3.) there's no double standard the words mean the same for everybody, so there cant be a double "standard"
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Racism is a social construct and thereby must be defined in social context. This always has been and always will be, individual ignorance notwithstanding.
    You're one of the very few (only?) people I've ever encountered who holds that position.
    I've never seen a dictionary or encyclopedia definition of racism that supports your position. Are you saying that's all wrong and incorrect? That I've been misled for years by everything I ever encountered on the term? How is that possible? It's not.

    The only possibility I see is that you and those who agree with you want to change the meaning of the term.

    For possibly laudable reasons, granted. But still change it.
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