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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats not his argument at all, his argument is that minorities and or people not in power can NOT be racists. That argument fails and is factually wrong, 10+ definitions prove it wrong and any theory like that is dishonest and mentally inept and gets nothing but laughed at. The fastest way not to be taken seriously on this issue is to say minorities cant be racist lol.
    I've heard his argument in context before and I don't believe he's wrong.

    Sure, any minority can display traits of racism as a group majority or to varying degrees individually, but it's not always a comparable effect.

    What are 10+ definitions?
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    1.)I've heard his argument in context before and I don't believe he's wrong.

    2.)Sure, any minority can display traits of racism as a group majority or to varying degrees individually, but it's not always a comparable effect.

    3.)What are 10+ definitions?
    1.) are you suggesting that the 10+ definitions in this thread are wrong
    because let me be VERY clear, im only talking about facts and the definition of the word racism/racist.

    when asked he said minorities and people not power can NOT be racist. That statement is factually fasle.

    and drivel of a different topic about effects/power/impact is 100% meanignless to the words racism/racist.

    2.) see you already agree with the facts and disagree with his lies. You just said " any minority can display traits of racism". He disagrees with that fact.
    arguments about effect/power/minority/impact all are meaningless to the definition they have zero impact.

    if you would like to make statments like if there is only ONE asian guy in a country or 1 million white guys and he doesn't like whites based on race that that has little "impact" I agree but that asian guiy is still 100% racist and id practising racism. THis fact will never change.

    3.) they are in the op and thread various times. I personally only posted 10 but other posters also poster more.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    From a social perspective, as opposed to defining everything by the individual, on can see clearly that a minority talking crap is no more significant than trolling and -that- should not be equated with lifelong inescapable oppression.
    No.

    Trolling is one thing. Racial bigotry is quite another. Institutionalized racism is yet another.

    Racial bigotry is by no means "talking crap", either - it's far worse than just saying some BS - it's racism. Cultural racism - your "social structure racism", is worst of all.

    But dismissing a racist's racism as unworthy of censure because they're in the minority is absolutely unacceptable to me. ANY racial bigotry is abhorrent. Institutionalized racism must be destroyed - it is completely unacceptable.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    lol ain't that the truth.

    Eco and the dictionary do not see eye to eye on this subject.
    I rarely see eye-to-eye with those that rely on the dictionary for understanding. It's the most basic explanation of sometimes complicated concepts. Stepping it up to an encyclopedia would be better, getting grad degrees including sociology would make astute understanding even more likely.

    But, hey, some are 'dictionary people'. As if others have not read the same. As if the most rudimentary understanding is all that exists. They wish because then there wouldn't be 'stupid'. If a dictionary was all that was required to grasp something, we could all be brilliant.

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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    No.

    Trolling is one thing. Racial bigotry is quite another.
    Racial bigotry by a minority is trolling. It means nothing socially to a white person. It's not a social threat at all. But when a white does it, it is a threat because society could get worse for minorities and it's bad enough already.

    A black saying they hate whites means nothing to me. It will never affect my ability to get employment, housing, schooling, justice, etc. A white saying they hate blacks carries real threat.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) are you suggesting that the 10+ definitions in this thread are wrong
    because let me be VERY clear, im only talking about facts and the definition of the word racism/racist.

    when asked he said minorities and people not power can NOT be racist. That statement is factually fasle.

    and drivel of a different topic about effects/power/impact is 100% meanignless to the words racism/racist.

    2.) see you already agree with the facts and disagree with his lies. You just said " any minority can display traits of racism". He disagrees with that fact.
    arguments about effect/power/minority/impact all are meaningless to the definition they have zero impact.

    if you would like to make statments like if there is only ONE asian guy in a country or 1 million white guys and he doesn't like whites based on race that that has little "impact" I agree but that asian guiy is still 100% racist and id practising racism. THis fact will never change.

    3.) they are in the op and thread various times. I personally only posted 10 but other posters also poster more.


    A definition of bigotry: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

    Does this mean you're displaying bigotry towards me? You're going to extremes and taking things out of context.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    A definition of bigotry: intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

    1.)Does this mean you're displaying bigotry towards me?
    2.)You're going to extremes and taking things out of context.
    1.) bigotry has nothing to do with the question in the OP
    and to answer your question the answer is no because im not discussing any OPINIONS here.
    2.) this is also false the context is MINE LMAO and the OP and the definition of racism/racist. There is no other context.

    if you disagree simply answer this question, its a yes no question.

    Can a minority and person not in power be racist and practice racism? yes or no?
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    1.)Racial bigotry by a minority is trolling.
    2.) It means nothing socially to a white person.
    3.) It's not a social threat at all.
    4.) But when a white does it, it is a threat because society could get worse for minorities and it's bad enough already.
    5.)A black saying they hate whites means nothing to me.
    6.) It will never affect my ability to get employment, housing, schooling, justice, etc.
    7.) A white saying they hate blacks carries real threat.
    1.) 100% fale proven by 10+ definitions
    2.) meanignless to the definition and facts
    3.) see #2
    4.) see #2
    5.) see #2
    6.) see #2
    7.) see #2

    your posts and the lies in them are destroyed and lose to facts again lol
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Racial bigotry by a minority is trolling. It means nothing socially to a white person. It's not a social threat at all. But when a white person does it, it is a threat because society could get worse for minorities and it's bad enough already.

    A black saying they hate whites means nothing to me. It will never affect my ability to get employment, housing, schooling, justice, etc. A white saying they hate blacks carries real threat.
    I would agree that it's not much of a threat, apart from possibly at an individual level ("I'm going to harm/kill you because you're white", for example).

    But it is by no means trolling - trolling is just looking for a response - racism is belief that a person is less than you because of their race - FAR worse IMO.

    And racism from a minority DOES mean something to me (one of the whitest mfers you'll ever see).
    I don't expect it to cause me issue, because you're quite right to say that being in the majority has it's perks - white persons like myself never expect to be discriminated against due to race. Or at least not to any degree that it would cause much issue.

    But....

    I do consider it a threat to society as a whole. Racism is unacceptable in any form, no matter who the source is. I would be more tolerant of minority on majority racism, however. Majority on minority racism is indeed more threatening, but I view it as a threat to society as a whole - which includes both majority and minority.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I rarely see eye-to-eye with those that rely on the dictionary for understanding. It's the most basic explanation of sometimes complicated concepts. Stepping it up to an encyclopedia would be better, getting grad degrees including sociology would make astute understanding even more likely.

    But, hey, some are 'dictionary people'. As if others have not read the same. As if the most rudimentary understanding is all that exists. They wish because then there wouldn't be 'stupid'. If a dictionary was all that was required to grasp something, we could all be brilliant.
    I agree this is why your posts are so far behind because dictionaries, encyclopedia, sociology and facts all prove your statments wrong and you fail to grasp that reality. all of them
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