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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The bottom line is, you are equating BS with real every day oppression for a lifetime. Don't pretend you use the term "institutionalized racism" when referring to white racial bigots. You don't. And so, the two things are conflated, which is exactly what racists want to see happen. You are playing into their game of false equivalence and thus a denial of real racism.

    Note: I said 'racial bigotry'.
    I suppose I just assume everyone would easily realize that, depending on the context in which I use the word "racism", it means something different.

    If I say "Person X is a racism mother****er", I mean "Person X is racist against group/race Y, and I dislike him/her/it because of it".

    If I say "Many governments maintained racist policies and laws well into the 20th century, one example of which is the institutionalized racism in some southern states of the USA.", it obviously describes a far worse situation.

    Neither is acceptable. But the former is at least tolerable, because it's just one person being an idiot. In some ways I think such individuals are necessary, as examples of what to avoid.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The bottom line is, you are equating BS with real every day oppression for a lifetime. Don't pretend you use the term "institutionalized racism" when referring to white racial bigots. You don't. And so, the two things are conflated, which is exactly what racists want to see happen. You are playing into their game of false equivalence and thus a denial of real racism.

    Note: I said 'racial bigotry'.
    and yet no definition supports this repeated lie
    lets us know when you can back this posted lie up with one fact . . . . . one lol
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I suppose I just assume everyone would easily realize that, depending on the context in which I use the word "racism", it means something different.

    If I say "Person X is a racism mother****er", I mean "Person X is racist against group/race Y, and I dislike him/her/it because of it".

    If I say "Many governments maintained racist policies and laws well into the 20th century, one example of which is the institutionalized racism in some southern states of the USA.", it obviously describes a far worse situation.

    Neither is acceptable. But the former is at least tolerable, because it's just one person being an idiot. In some ways I think such individuals are necessary, as examples of what to avoid.
    Bottom line: you don't call anyone an "institutional racist". Thereby, your distinction is BS and you are -in fact- equating socially meaningless BS with real life every day oppression.

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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Bottom line: you don't call anyone an "institutional racist". Thereby, your distinction is BS and you are -in fact- equating socially meaningless BS with real life every day oppression.
    once again theres not one factual thing you can post to support this lie, not one. If you disagree do so now lol
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Bottom line: you don't call anyone an "institutional racist". Thereby, your distinction is BS and you are -in fact- equating socially meaningless BS with real life every day oppression.
    And individual CAN'T be an institutional racist.

    They can only be a racist.

    If they live in a society that supports racism (institutional racism), they are still racist, but have the protection of a culture that accepts/supports such activities and thoughts.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Yes. This is absolutely racist.


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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    And individual CAN'T be an institutional racist.

    They can only be a racist.

    If they live in a society that supports racism (institutional racism), they are still racist, but have the protection of a culture that accepts/supports such activities and thoughts.

    So, you're equating socially meaningless BS (a minority being a racial bigot) with oppression every day of ones life.

    Very nice.

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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So, you're equating socially meaningless BS (a minority being a racial bigot) with oppression every day of ones life.

    Very nice.
    Both are racism. But the latter is institutionalized racism, which is far worse, for obvious reasons.


    Edit: You're worried that using the term "racism" for even the smallest fragment of racial bigotry dilutes the impact of the word.

    I'M worried that calling racial bigotry anything other than racism might change the very meaning of the word.

    Too many word meanings change as it is.
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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Both are racism. But the latter is institutionalized racism, which is far worse, for obvious reasons.
    Racism is not an individual act. It can only be created by society. "Institutional racism" is the only real racism. Other crap is just bigotry being drummed up as generational oppression.

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    Re: Is this scenario racism, Can minorities be racist?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Racism is not an individual act. It can only be created by society. "Institutional racism" is the only real racism. Other crap is just bigotry being drummed up as generational oppression.
    To me, racial bigotry = racism.
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