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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He chose to exclude a race, to create a second class citizenry. What he did was an overt attempt to marginalize and subjugate a minority. Further, he considers hard earned pay to be handouts in some sort of a modern plantation fantasy.
    You're inferring one hell of a lot there.

    He told his girlfriend to not bring black people with her to Clipper games. Just as likely he's overly image concious and worried about what people will think. That's dopey and potentially bigoted. It is not of itself racist.
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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    He's white. That must pain you.
    Why do you think defining racism as more than just individual bigotry, and including the social aspects of a social construct, is anti-white?

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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    You're inferring one hell of a lot there.

    He told his girlfriend to not bring black people with her to Clipper games. Just as likely he's overly image concious and worried about what people will think. That's dopey and potentially bigoted. It is not of itself racist.
    It's clearly marginalizing a minority. And he referred to paychecks as handouts. Both of those things are damaging to the NBA.

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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Why do you think defining racism as more than just individual bigotry, and including the social aspects of a social construct, is anti-white?
    You're just denying simple fact. For what reasons, who knows. Saying that racism can only be performed by a regional or national majority is just baiting and trolling. There are many, many instances where black institutional racism exists. You can't white-wash that.

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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You're just denying simple fact.
    You're denying real racism and calling bigotry by minorities racism. You're even calling AA racism. You'll call anything racism, as long as it helps to deny real racism.

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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by PoS View Post
    Donald Sterling, disgraced Los Angeles Clippers owner, asks for forgiveness in first public comments - ESPN Los Angeles

    Donald Sterling tells Anderson Cooper: 'I'm asking for forgiveness' - CNN.com
    So there you have it, folks, he has finally apologized.

    Now the next question is, should his fines and penalty be rescinded or not?
    You need more options in your poll - for me, the man's apology should be accepted at face value and he should continue to pay the fine, because the words were uttered by him. However, the league has no business trying to strip the team from him and his wife.

    I hope the league continues to try to make he and his wife sell the team so that the league can lose in court and be further embarrassed for the way they steamrolled justice here.
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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're denying real racism and calling bigotry by minorities racism. You're even calling AA racism. You'll call anything racism, as long as it helps to deny real racism.
    Anything where race plays a role in bias toward one side is racism. It's not like only one type of racism can exist. That's like saying you're an inhabitant of Earth, so you can't live in North America, or the United States, or Florida. You're an earthling.

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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's clearly marginalizing a minority. And he referred to paychecks as handouts. Both of those things are damaging to the NBA.
    Sure they are potentially damaging to the NBA. I'm not arguing that they aren't. I'm simply saying they don't rise to the level of racism.

    Neither does the "paychecks as handouts" comment - really. Plenty of employers have felt that way about their employees. If he owned a hockey team he might well say the same thing. About the only thing you can definitively say about the paycheck comment is that it makes him an a-hole of an employer.
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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Stupid deflection question. The incident regarding Sterling revolved around black people because his comments were directed at black people which is why black people, not other 'minorities' are the focus. Does that sufficiently handle your deflective intellectual dishonesty?
    Utter fail on your part. Do you even know to what I was referring?
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Accept or Decline Donald Sterling Apology?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Sure they are potentially damaging to the NBA. I'm not arguing that they aren't. I'm simply saying they don't rise to the level of racism.
    You're not considering his statements in context. One needn't use the word 'nigger' or openly display personal disgust or belief in superiority in order to engage in the systemic oppression and marginalization of a minority.

    You are trying to define racism by individual actions, words or expression alone, and failing to see systemic oppression in action.

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