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  • Yep, white as a Viking, despite being an Arab!

    8 20.00%
  • Yes, because Arabs are white, too. Have you ever actually looked at a Lebanese person?

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  • No, he wasn't white, because Arabs aren't white, only European are white.

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    I don't think where Jesus was born has really anything to do with his appearance. Assuming that God really did give Mary an "immaculate conception," could God then make Jesus look like anyone he wanted?

    At any rate, what the man looked like in no way affects how I feel towards him or his teachings.
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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Not necessarily. You somehow managed to cleverly escape what you consider fables...now give other individuals the same credit for making their own adult decisions even if they have not rejected what they were taught. And remember too all the people who have become persons of faith as thoughtful, intelligent, reasonable adults.
    I will absolutely give someone credit for making their own decision if they're an Iranian factory worker who converts to Christianity, or a Kentucky farmer who takes up Islam, or a Brazilian soldier who decides to become an atheist.

    I think, personally, some of those might be what I would call 'unsatisfying' choices -- I certainly wouldn't advocate anyone convert to either Christianity or Islam, except under some extreme circumstances -- but I would absolutely agree that this would be an adult making an adult choice they are responsible for.

    The issue, as you well know, is that most people aren't brought up to consider all the various religions and philosophies and idea systems of the world in a total, objective vacuum, and then upon reaching age 20 or something, get to choose their creed, having it renewed like a passport every five or ten years.

    The overwhelming, vast majority of religious adherents are merely adherents to that religion because it's the dominant religion of their area, and intentionally or not, they are almost continuously indoctrinated into it through both positive education and peer pressure, and sins of omission in providing proper access to the other, often antithetical creeds out there.

    So, my point is, while you're right that your religion is not necessarily determined by where you were born and to whom, it overwhelmingly is.

    Mr Mildsteel here would almost certainly be arguing vehemently for the glories of Muhammad, PBUH etc. and Sunni Islam, if he had only been born in Saudi Arabia. Instead, he was probably born in the United States, and thus argues vehemently for the glories of Jesus Christ and Protestant Christianity.

    Forgive me for not being able to regard such arguments as entirely rational or well thought-out.

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    There are plenty of Arabs with lighter skin than Greeks or Italian, though. Certainly plenty of East Asians, too.

    I'm not saying it's incorrect to label Europeans 'white' and Arabs 'not' -- it's merely a metonym. White essentially means European. It's not actually indicative of the skin colour of a person, because there are plenty of people who are as white as Europeans, but they're not 'white' in that specific sense.
    I think Jesus would pass the common definition of "white" in 2014 (skin complection) but not the definition of "white" commonly in use in say 1980 (culturally European).

    Jesus would definetly would not pass the common definition of "white" in say, 1920 (not only did "whites" have to be culturally European, but it was strongly prefered that they be Ango Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, or German. Heck, even a certain number of French barely qualifed as "white". Spaniards, Italians, Greeks and Slavs were clearly seen as non "white"- regardless of how light complected they were as individuals).

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Perhaps we're not meant to know what Jesus looked like lest we lust and idolize him like a sex god and forget his teachings.




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    Re: Was Jesus White?

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    This is one of the first images of Jesus.

    The eyes symbolizing his two natures -- Human and Divine.

    Notwithstanding the eyes, I believe this to be probably the most accurate depiction we will come across...

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    I will absolutely give someone credit for making their own decision if they're an Iranian factory worker who converts to Christianity, or a Kentucky farmer who takes up Islam, or a Brazilian soldier who decides to become an atheist.

    I think, personally, some of those might be what I would call 'unsatisfying' choices -- I certainly wouldn't advocate anyone convert to either Christianity or Islam, except under some extreme circumstances -- but I would absolutely agree that this would be an adult making an adult choice they are responsible for.

    The issue, as you well know, is that most people aren't brought up to consider all the various religions and philosophies and idea systems of the world in a total, objective vacuum, and then upon reaching age 20 or something, get to choose their creed, having it renewed like a passport every five or ten years.

    The overwhelming, vast majority of religious adherents are merely adherents to that religion because it's the dominant religion of their area, and intentionally or not, they are almost continuously indoctrinated into it through both positive education and peer pressure, and sins of omission in providing proper access to the other, often antithetical creeds out there.

    So, my point is, while you're right that your religion is not necessarily determined by where you were born and to whom, it overwhelmingly is.

    Mr Mildsteel here would almost certainly be arguing vehemently for the glories of Muhammad, PBUH etc. and Sunni Islam, if he had only been born in Saudi Arabia. Instead, he was probably born in the United States, and thus argues vehemently for the glories of Jesus Christ and Protestant Christianity.

    Forgive me for not being able to regard such arguments as entirely rational or well thought-out.
    As you will forgive me for laughing at the both pitiably narrow and pretentious view you have of the overwhelmingly vast majority of religious adherents…you know, the “sheeple” to your far more discerning and sophisticated understanding.

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Does it actually matter? The only time we need to use the "Jesus wasn't white argument", is when dealing with Fascists or Nazis. They obviously don't like Arabs no matter what you tell them.

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

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    According to one of the most intelligent thinkers of our time, Megyn Kelly, both Jesus and Santa Clause were white.

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ad_Captandum View Post
    Just out of sheer, morbid curiosity at what you folks think.
    I'm not convinced that he ever even existed.

    But I do know that a lot of extreme black racists from Obama's racist cult insist that Jesus was black. They have no evidence of it or anything, they are merely extremist anti-white racists. Whites are "devils" according to those scumbag racists like Obama. That is in their official cult doctrine/dogma.
    Last edited by Muhammed; 05-13-14 at 05:58 PM.

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    Re: Was Jesus White?

    Where's the "it was just a book" option?
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