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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Just give everyone free dial-up. Little to no infrastructure startup costs.
    But then we'd all need landlines again. Some people don't have those anymore.

    Also, holy **** that **** is slow.
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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    But then we'd all need landlines again. Some people don't have those anymore.

    Also, holy **** that **** is slow.
    I'm sure they can make it to where a jack can be used for an internet signal and not a phone line. If not, just throw it in. Nobody would use it.

    As far as speed, I couldn't give a rat's ass. You shouldn't be able to get great with free. Hell, maybe I should bitch about how I don't get HBO or Skinemax for free. And why shouldn't I have a Porsche instead of my Tracker. While we're at it, filet mignon should be the same price as chicken thighs.

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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm sure they can make it to where a jack can be used for an internet signal and not a phone line. If not, just throw it in. Nobody would use it.

    As far as speed, I couldn't give a rat's ass. You shouldn't be able to get great with free. Hell, maybe I should bitch about how I don't get HBO or Skinemax for free. And why shouldn't I have a Porsche instead of my Tracker. While we're at it, filet mignon should be the same price as chicken thighs.
    I don't expect free. I would expect to be taxed to support the system.

    But, IMO, at the least the core backbones need to be publicly owned.
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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    I don't expect free. I would expect to be taxed to support the system.

    But, IMO, at the least the core backbones need to be publicly owned.
    I'd rather reduce taxes and people can pay for their own if they want. It's better for me to keep more of my paycheck and keep stealing my neighbor's bandwidth.

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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Well, first, the FCC is over broadcasts, as in radio or the tv you get with rabbit ears... They have no claim over the internet.

    Net neutrality is what makes the internet as valuable as it is,if companies control the information then all unpopular opinions will get shut out. (Ie, no more debate politics, or you pay the premium).

    Bye bye free speech on the internet.
    The do but the don't. The language of the Communications Act of 1934 that established the FCC give them authority over all forms of electronic communications. They've just historically treated over the air communications as "public" and wired communications as "private" with a less degree of regulation. They have the authority to regulate the Internet. I wish they wouldn't except for stopping fraud, spam and if somebody is going to regulate it I'd rather it be the US and not some international body.
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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I believe internet speeds should not be regulated or throttled while holding consumers hostage.
    you just said that they should be regulated and throttled, specifically that all should be mandated down to the speed of the slowest player.

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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    From a capitalist point of view, the owners of the fiber should be allowed to do whatever they want with that service. If that means creating a multitiered level of service, that should be their right.

    But from a societal point of view that favors the overall economy, the pay to play system would be a huge drag on the economy.
    That would be like the power company telling you the types of equipment you can use that electrical connection to power.

    So, no, you pay for the connection, not for the "stuff" going through the connection.

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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    That would be like the power company telling you the types of equipment you can use that electrical connection to power.
    Well yeah. It's kind of like that. We simply don't let them do that because of societal needs.

    So, no, you pay for the connection, not for the "stuff" going through the connection.
    In a pure capitalist society a power company COULD do that.
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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Well yeah. It's kind of like that. We simply don't let them do that because of societal needs.



    In a pure capitalist society a power company COULD do that.
    In some ways they DO limit what you can connect to a power line - but it's built into the systems - you can't plug a toaster into a 3-phase line unless you rewire it. No idea why you'd want to though...


    Edit: OK that example is bad...there are 3-phase toasters...according to a google search I just ran cause I was curious...

    How about...you can't plug a single-phase piece of equipment into a 3-phase line?
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    Re: Do You Believe There Should Be a "Pay to Play" System on the Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Do you believe the FCC should allow a "pay to play" system on the internet?
    A new FCC Chair threatens to let cable and phone companies create an Internet fast lane for companies that can afford it and a slow lane for everyone else who cannot afford it.
    My $52.95 a month for internet access isn't paying enough?
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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