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Are we obsessed with people's sexuality?

Do you think coming out announcements are overkill

  • Yes

    Votes: 10 31.3%

  • No

    Votes: 6 18.8%

  • I love it when I hear of others coming out

    Votes: 1 3.1%

  • It should not be news worthy

    Votes: 11 34.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 4 12.5%
  • Total voters
    32
votemout said:
Because that is the left gameplan PUSH homosexual behavior down the throats of everyone.
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Push WHAT down your throat?

:3oops:
 
sangha said:
Because the internet is a source of reliable information
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Ok. If this is the best argument you can make to state your case then it's clear that you have lost.
 
Rainman05 said:
Instead of being normal, average, boring individuals who just mind their own business, no different than you and me who don't fancy having pants with butcheeks cut-outs and who want to show they nipples, listening to barbara streissand and looking like clowns in public. In other words, there should be no image disctinction between a homo and a normal person. No mental images like the ones above must be associated with homosexuality if you ever hope to not have this spectacle of it all.

In other words, if you want the response for the phrase "hey, I'm gay" to be "Ok, and?" (which is what you should want to be ) then you can't have the desire for people to treat you differently, to pay special attention to you because of your sexuality.
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A large majority of them are normal, average, boring individuals.
 
Rainman05 said:
Ok. If this is the best argument you can make to state your case then it's clear that you have lost.
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Seeing as how SSM bans are being overturned, people are becoming more accepting of LGBT's, and more and more laws are being passed to protect the rights of LGBT's, it's pretty clear that they're not losing. Your claim that gay people coming out is hurting them is clearly refuted by reality

But if claiming victory on the internet consoles you, I won't burst that bubble of yours
 
Gardener said:
Especially if you are,too.
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Now, that would be an interesting problem. Here's a poem about it:

There was a gay man from barsoom,
Who went up to a lesbian's room.
They argued all night,
Over who had the right,
To do what, and with which, and to whom.
 
Here is the thing, when the bigots stop trying to disappear gay people from culture this won't be an issue. Until then any new group that comes open to gay people it will be news. You see part of celebrity is the fact that people want to know about them and that includes who they love. For decades people had to hide that or lose a lot of support, money, and ability to share their talents. In part because the power of the bigoted voices. Slowly gay people decided they didn't want to hide anymore. This is a good thing for our culture. How many people's talents have we not benefited from because of their sexuality.

For Sam, he is not going to be a great NFL player but his body of work is worth a chance. His one great talent fits with Fisher's defense and if he can bulk up he may be a third and long blitzer. He will likely play on special teams or the practice squad but he is getting a chance because his work in college was good. I was convince after the Combine that he would be a 5-7 rounder and frnakly would not have had a problem if no one took him. But breaking that barrier is a big deal. While there have been gay men on teams before.

But of course the bigotry didn't take long to explode on Twitter and here and you know what that drives the narrative that started threads like this. Now if the next time it is a guy like Andrew Luck who comes out then we will see. My hope is the mini-camp ends the media circus and we see if he can make the team.
 
Gardener said:
You make no sense.

On one hand, you say an athete (who is normal looking and acting in all respects) coming out does a disservice to the gay community, then you post two pictures of what you see as the image gay men have created.

On one hand, you wish to inhibit the more normal gay men from stating who they are, but then accuse gay men as the ones fostering the more extreme charicatures you promote.
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It made sense to me.

The leftist culture has moved from celebrating traditional unions, to ostracizing and hating those who promote it, as marriage between a man and a woman.

The tolerant left pressured Mozilla CEO to resign for supporting traditional marriage. They discriminated against against Hobby Lobby and Chick-fil-A for their views on traditional marriage, some companies have been coerced to cater same-sex marriage celebrations, and of course the “Duck Dynasty” debacle.

Why wasn't President Obama forced to resign his presidency over his former views about traditional marriage?

Demanding tolerance for their views, and their views only. The tolerant left.

And, I wish Michael Sam well because I'm an SEC fan. However, Jadeveon Clowney, also a defensive end, was the best defensive player in the SEC last year and the year before, period. If you don't believe me just ask the Houston Texans.
 
herenow1 said:
Lately it seems that everyone who comes out gets a grandiose platform. Someone comes out and it's talked about for days. Many have called them heroes while giving them a virtual standing ovation. I don't care if someone is gay or not, but it just bugs me when people call them heroes or tear others down for having a difference of opinion. The definition of hero for me is someone going into a burning building to save someone, or a person taking a bullet for someone. It's Just starting to seem like this is becoming a bit of an obsession.
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Maybe we need an official registry. ;)
 
joG said:
Maybe we need an official registry. ;)
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If you are talking about a registry of famous people coming out, we kind of already have it.

Every time somebody announces it, somebody here posts a thread about it like it is important, so if you do a search it is kind of like a registry.
 
Carjosse said:
A large majority of them are normal, average, boring individuals.
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Ok, I am not disputing that but what I am saying is that they aren't the image standard for the gay community. the flaming homosexuals are. And the flaming homosexuals do it because they want people to understand that homosexuality is real and that there are gays around them and they want to express themselves... but in that desire and to accomplish that goal, they go about it the completely wrong way and I think it does a lot of harm.
 
Rainman05 said:
Ok, I am not disputing that but what I am saying is that they aren't the image standard for the gay community. the flaming homosexuals are. And the flaming homosexuals do it because they want people to understand that homosexuality is real and that there are gays around them and they want to express themselves... but in that desire and to accomplish that goal, they go about it the completely wrong way and I think it does a lot of harm.
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Are people who insist that homosexuals are sinners bound for Hell flaming heterosexuals?
 
herenow1 said:
Lately it seems that everyone who comes out gets a grandiose platform. Someone comes out and it's talked about for days. Many have called them heroes while giving them a virtual standing ovation. I don't care if someone is gay or not, but it just bugs me when people call them heroes or tear others down for having a difference of opinion. The definition of hero for me is someone going into a burning building to save someone, or a person taking a bullet for someone. It's Just starting to seem like this is becoming a bit of an obsession.
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I really don't think it has to be put out there. I don't smooch in public and Don't like it when others do either. All this news coverage and tv shows showing intimate moments are mostly gratuitous.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Now, that would be an interesting problem. Here's a poem about it:

There was a gay man from barsoom,
Who went up to a lesbian's room.
They argued all night,
Over who had the right,
To do what, and with which, and to whom.
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But had they been thoroughly bi
They wouldn't ask with whom and why
But instead, intercourse
irregardless of source
Rearrange, and then go one more try.
 
sangha said:
Seeing as how SSM bans are being overturned, people are becoming more accepting of LGBT's, and more and more laws are being passed to protect the rights of LGBT's, it's pretty clear that they're not losing. Your claim that gay people coming out is hurting them is clearly refuted by reality

But if claiming victory on the internet consoles you, I won't burst that bubble of yours
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First off, this isn't about same sex marriage and I support SSM. Don't make yourself up to be on one side and me on the other because that's not the case. It is because I don't see why sexual orientation should be a hot topic that I think that all this coming out and gay parades are a bad thing and hurting the image of the gay community. So now that we take that strawman out of the way lets talk facts and reality.

Prove to me that it is the coming out statements that have a positive and meaningful impact on making people change their minds about SSM or about gays. I state that it's at best, a blip on the radar from a positive standpoint and the only meaningful impact it can make is a damaging one because it perpetuates the idea that gays are somehow unique and amazing little snowflakes that deserve special consideration. And reasonable people don't like that and don't, as nobody should, center their political stances on sentimental blabbery of some celebrity or another.
 
Rainman05 said:
I often say this... people who are public figures and who are gay and come out with a big song and dance and statement about it are doing a disservice to the homosexual community just like the openly gay strut-around flaming homosexuals are.

It is the fault of the homosexuals
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Stopped reading right there.

No it's not their fault, Rainman. It's our fault for judging people for who they are. If you disagree with me, ask yourself: How specifically does a "flaming gay" harm you? Do you have an eye condition that makes their costumes' bright colors hurt your eyes? Then go see an ophthalmologist. Are your feelings too easily hurt that they are acting in consensual ways that you do not approve of? Then go see a counselor. "If your eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away." Because there is no sensible reason to hate on a group of people simply for how they choose to dress or not dress, or for whom their hearts compel them to love.

Oh and BTW, even as a straight man, I think the costumes you showed look AWESOME. :)
 
Displaying and prancing is a natural animal act.

Even god-fearing straight boys display

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Dittohead not! said:
Are people who insist that homosexuals are sinners bound for Hell flaming heterosexuals?
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Yes. They will be strapped to a chair and be forced to watch hawt ghey secks for all eternity. ;)
 
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