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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

    38 79.17%
  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

    10 20.83%
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....you don't even know how lack of a clue you have with this. I'm an attorney that works in the criminal courts. Perhaps I have a little better idea of what was going on in Los Angeles than someone behind the orange curtain who really had no connection to it at all.
    Were you with the DA office back in 92 ?

    Were you one of those liberals who after the riots who said, "It just civil disobedience" while celebrating along with the Crips and Bloods on the streets of Los Angeles.

    The only city in America that celebrated the burning of a city and the mayhem, murder, arson and looting that took place.

    Los Angeles is a world class city isn't it.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Were you with the DA office back in 92 ?

    Were you one of those liberals who after the riots who said, "It just civil disobedience" while celebrating along with the Crips and Bloods on the streets of Los Angeles.

    The only city in America that celebrated the burning of a city and the mayhem, murder, arson and looting that took place.
    Wow....you are full of drama today Apacherat. What's going on behind the orange curtain today that is creating all this drama with you?

    No....I was not a DA, I was working as a public defender at the time. No I didn't celebrate...nor did most of the citizens of Los Angeles. Those participating in the riots and otherwise celebrating represent a miniscule percentile of the citizens that reside in Los Angeles County. But then again....why would I expect someone who hides locked behind the orange curtain to understand that?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow....you are full of drama today Apacherat. What's going on behind the orange curtain today that is creating all this drama with you?

    No....I was not a DA, I was working as a public defender at the time. No I didn't celebrate...nor did most of the citizens of Los Angeles. Those participating in the riots and otherwise celebrating represent a miniscule percentile of the citizens that reside in Los Angeles County. But then again....why would I expect someone who hides locked behind the orange curtain to understand that?
    So how many arsonist and looters did you defend ?

    How many actually were convicted and sent to prison ?

    If 90% who were arrested during the riots for looting were illegal aliens, how many were held for the INS and deported ?

    Did you defend Damian "Football" Williams, the banger who smashed Reginal Denny's skull with a piece of concrete ?

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    So how many arsonist and looters did you defend ?

    How many actually were convicted and sent to prison ?

    If 90% who were arrested during the riots for looting were illegal aliens, how many were held for the INS and deported ?

    Did you defend Damian "Football" Williams, the banger who smashed Reginal Denny's skull with a piece of concrete ?
    No Arsonists
    People charged with thefts from the riots - don't remember, it was so long ago, my recollection is 3 or 4
    Your 90% claim here is laughable. Not even close to reality so I can't really respond to it (another drama queen moment?)
    No, I did not defend Damian Williams.

    Anything else you wanna know?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No Arsonists
    People charged with thefts from the riots - don't remember, it was so long ago, my recollection is 3 or 4
    Your 90% claim here is laughable. Not even close to reality so I can't really respond to it (another drama queen moment?)
    No, I did not defend Damian Williams.

    Anything else you wanna know?
    I do have to stand corrected, like you said it was a long time ago. It was 1/3 who were arrested were illegal aliens.

    But why do you think during the riots, 100 LAPD officers were deputised as Deputy U.S. Marshals ?

    >“At a Cabinet meeting today, Attorney General William P. Barr said nearly one-third of the first 6,000 [Los Angeles] riot suspects arrested and processed through the court system were illegal aliens, according to a senior Administration official. Barr has not proposed any special effort to have them deported, a Justice Department spokesman said.”<
    —Washington Post, May 6, 1992

    https://www.vdare.com/letters/a-cali...didnt-happen-a

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I do have to stand corrected, like you said it was a long time ago. It was 1/3 who were arrested were illegal aliens.

    But why do you think during the riots, 100 LAPD officers were deputised as Deputy U.S. Marshals ?

    >“At a Cabinet meeting today, Attorney General William P. Barr said nearly one-third of the first 6,000 [Los Angeles] riot suspects arrested and processed through the court system were illegal aliens, according to a senior Administration official. Barr has not proposed any special effort to have them deported, a Justice Department spokesman said.”<
    —Washington Post, May 6, 1992

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    That sounds much more accurate.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    That sounds much more accurate.
    I think it was that blacks were responsiable for 90% of the arson.

    Just going from memory from a L.A. Times story from 1992.

    You may have rememberd it, they had a map of L.A. County with a red dot representing every building that was set afire during the riots.

    Remember after the riots when you drove around South L.A. and all of the immigrant communities ? Everyone was wearing brand new sneakers.

    It was interesting watching it on television. The blacks first targeted the liqour stores while the illegal aliens went for the stores that had Pampers.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I think it was that blacks were responsiable for 90% of the arson.

    Just going from memory from a L.A. Times story from 1992.

    You may have rememberd it, they had a map of L.A. County with a red dot representing every building that was set afire during the riots.

    Remember after the riots when you drove around South L.A. and all of the immigrant communities ? Everyone was wearing brand new sneakers.

    It was interesting watching it on television. The blacks first targeted the liqour stores while the illegal aliens went for the stores that had Pampers.
    BS again.....the vast majority of the people living in South LA did not participate in looting....it was a handful few that caused the problems. As for your other contention about who targeted what.....where are you pulling this stuff out of? You really do need to get out more.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    BS again.....the vast majority of the people living in South LA did not participate in looting....it was a handful few that caused the problems. As for your other contention about who targeted what.....where are you pulling this stuff out of? You really do need to get out more.
    South L.A. was just the flash point. Looting and arson was happening all over L.A. County where ever the population was dependent on government.

    You may remember when the first of the month came and the welfare checks weren't being delivered because mail service was suspended, the looting and arson ended. You had mile long lines at the post offices.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So parents and the media are the ones teaching kids to fear guns. And how do they do this exactly? What nefarious methods are they employing? And real life events play no role in their attitude on guns at all?
    Of course they are. Where else are they learning it? NOt on TV much. Home and schools with paranoid zero tolerance policies where they cant even make a gun with their fingers.

    Households where they have guns and teach them to respect them, those kids arent afraid.

    What, are you implying that kids are 'born' afraid of guns like some people have a fear of heights? Come on...you tell me why YOU think those kids are afraid at the very sight of a gun. I gave you my answer.


    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And why are you so unfamiliar with American history and the role guns played in it? And why are you ignoring my point in bringing up in the first place to counter your claims?
    LOLOLOL You CLAIMED that frontier kids killed the race of people originally inhabiting this country. Do you want to stick with that? I can requote it. I said that historically people, including kids, were not afraid of guns. You gave me a non sequiter on how guns were used earlier in our history. How about you connecting those dots for me in the context of the actual discussion?



    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    btw - I NEVER made a point saying that people who open carry have harmed others. That is not now and has never been my argument. So why in the world would I have to speak to your arguing against a strawman of your own creation? Why should I waste one second of my time providing evidence to a point that I never made in the first place?
    OK, you claimed they were intentionally trying to intimidate people. And even if not intentional, people were reasonable to be intimidated by them. Why? Goes back to 'baseless and unfounded.'

    Where are your examples of those guns being used to harm anyone in those public situations? People legally OCing? I mean, if there's NO HARM, then why are people irrationally intimidated?

    Are you intimidated because they look cooler than you? You are intimidated by your own fear....so is the fear of harm? Or.....? you tell me.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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