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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's dishonest. the CC has been the foundation of all federal infringements on the right of citizens to keep and bear arms.

    why don't you find some reference to something other than the CC if you are claiming its something else
    No - its honest and factual.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    No - its honest and factual.
    Says the guy that thinks so long as you can own a single muzzle loader but no ammo no law can infringe on the 2nd Amendment.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Says the guy that thinks so long as you can own a single muzzle loader but no ammo no law can infringe on the 2nd Amendment.
    In which post did I make that statement?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Well if you were to drugged out back in 1992, may I suggest you borrow twenty bucks to purchase "Official Negligence." Or if you still remember what a public library is and where it is and what those things are sitting on the shelf, grab it, blow off the dust and start reading. It list who and how many were arrested. It list who looted, murdered, committed mayhem, and arson by race and by the numbers.

    Official Negligence : How Rodney King and the Riots Changed Los Angeles and the LAPD: Lou Cannon: 9780813337258: Amazon.com: Books

    So this post isn't thread drift, the book also shows where armed law abiding citizens were able to protect their lives, their family lives and their businesses.
    LOL....you don't even know how lack of a clue you have with this. I'm an attorney that works in the criminal courts. Perhaps I have a little better idea of what was going on in Los Angeles than someone behind the orange curtain who really had no connection to it at all.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In which post did I make that statement?
    many times you have claimed that as long as someone can "enjoy" their 2A rights-meaning owning a gun-bans on all sorts of guns could not deprive you of "ENJOYING" your 2A rights

    it was a pathetic argument because the 2A is invoked when Congress acts to infringe on the RKBA
    individual situations do not make a law in violation of the 2A sound



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    LOL....you don't even know how lack of a clue you have with this. I'm an attorney that works in the criminal courts. Perhaps I have a little better idea of what was going on in Los Angeles than someone behind the orange curtain who really had no connection to it at all.

    Public Defender?

    Judicial Clerk?



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    many times you have claimed that as long as someone can "enjoy" their 2A rights-meaning owning a gun-bans on all sorts of guns could not deprive you of "ENJOYING" your 2A rights

    it was a pathetic argument because the 2A is invoked when Congress acts to infringe on the RKBA
    individual situations do not make a law in violation of the 2A sound
    So you are unable to provide a quote from me in which I made that statement about muzzle loaders without ammo?

    But somehow someway you equate my position on the word INFRINGED with that leap across the Grand Canyon of logic even though you know I am on record as agreeing with the Heller decision that those rights were INFRINGED with a handgun ban in DC?

    Why would you claim that when those two positions are miles apart?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Says the guy that thinks so long as you can own a single muzzle loader but no ammo no law can infringe on the 2nd Amendment.

    funny guy!

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Public Defender?

    Judicial Clerk?
    I was working as a public defender at the time....so I directly handled several of the cases. I don't believe any that I handled were non-documented, although I know some were. But to make the assuptions that Apacherat did without any knowledge is just a pure display of ignorance.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I was working as a public defender at the time....so I directly handled several of the cases. I don't believe any that I handled were non-documented, although I know some were. But to make the assuptions that Apacherat did without any knowledge is just a pure display of ignorance.
    I won't argue that point. I was curious your role.



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