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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

    38 79.17%
  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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Thread: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You're not really familiar with the story of Thanksgiving, are you?
    You have got to be kidding?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Huh?
    Instead of breaking it up, try reading it in context with the sentence above it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Guy, tree stands and a gun are nice to have...but they're not a "need". Please learn the difference between "nice to have" and "need".
    The tree stand was a joke.

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You're assuming that I wouldn't know the local flora. Furthermore, you're assuming that I can't quickly learn the local flora. And on top of all that, you're assuming you have an unlimited amount of ammo. At some point, you will run out of ammo...and then you have to catch up to what I already know, and what I've already learned in the meantime.
    Please feel free to point out where I said anything about YOU. I was talking in general terms about... you know... the point you were making?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    You'd be surprised. For instance, you're assuming that people wouldn't help each other to learn how to survive. Again, you should learn the story of Thanksgiving sometime.
    I know the story. I however know the WHOLE story...

    The part you stopped at...

    The story began in 1614 when a band of English explorers sailed home to England with a ship full of Patuxet Indians bound for slavery. They left behind smallpox which virtually wiped out those who had escaped. By the time the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and knew their language. He taught them to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation. At the end of their first year, the Pilgrims held a great feast honoring Squanto and the Wampanoags. - THE REAL STORY OF THANKSGIVING

    What a wonderful story! Lets continue...

    But as word spread in England about the paradise to be found in the new world, religious zealots called Puritans began arriving by the boat load. Finding no fences around the land, they considered it to be in the public domain. Joined by other British settlers, they seized land, capturing strong young Natives for slaves and killing the rest. But the Pequot Nation had not agreed to the peace treaty Squanto had negotiated and they fought back. The Pequot War was one of the bloodiest Indian wars ever fought.

    In 1637 near present day Groton, Connecticut, over 700 men, women and children of the Pequot Tribe had gathered for their annual Green Corn Festival which is our Thanksgiving celebration. In the predawn hours the sleeping Indians were surrounded by English and Dutch mercenaries who ordered them to come outside. Those who came out were shot or clubbed to death while the terrified women and children who huddled inside the longhouse were burned alive. The next day the governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony declared "A Day Of Thanksgiving" because 700 unarmed men, women and children had been murdered.
    - THE REAL STORY OF THANKSGIVING

    And it gets worse. You get the idea though, I hope.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So you want sexual predators, sociopaths, and terrorists to be free to buy guns without any background checks or registration. Gee, you're all about freedom aren't you?
    You might want to read this...

    Straw Man: The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

    I will say you have a knack for it.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    By the time the Pilgrims arrived in Massachusetts Bay they found only one living Patuxet Indian, a man named Squanto who had survived slavery in England and knew their language. He taught them to grow corn and to fish, and negotiated a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag Nation.
    Thank you for proving my point. Guns don't help a whole lot when it comes to growing corn - or anything else for that matter - and for fishing.
    To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what hes doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Thank you for proving my point. Guns don't help a whole lot when it comes to growing corn - or anything else for that matter - and for fishing.
    You are the master of the straw man... Seriously.

    You have a good night. Because you are not worth replying to.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    You might want to read this...

    Straw Man: The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

    I will say you have a knack for it.
    Really? Yeah, since when do we have to worry about sex predators, sociopaths, terrorists, psychopaths, and ex-felons....
    To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what hes doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Black Dog View Post
    You are the master of the straw man... Seriously.

    You have a good night because you are not worth replying to.
    Yeah, since when is being able to fish and grow crops important for survival in the wild?

    Y'know, accusing someone of building a strawman when they're directly addressing the question presented to them is a strawman all its own....
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So you want sexual predators, sociopaths, and terrorists to be free to buy guns without any background checks or registration. Gee, you're all about freedom aren't you?
    only someone completely unaware of laws knows that registration doesn't apply to such people and we already have an instant BGC in place.

    registration only harasses honest people. the USSC ruled those who cannot legally own guns cannot be forced to incriminate themselves by registration

    so why do you support a law that cannot be used against criminals and is championed by every group that wants to ban or confiscate guns.

    You are parroting all the anti gun arguments and you wonder why some think you are anti gun?



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    only someone completely unaware of laws knows that registration doesn't apply to such people and we already have an instant BGC in place.

    registration only harasses honest people. the USSC ruled those who cannot legally own guns cannot be forced to incriminate themselves by registration

    so why do you support a law that cannot be used against criminals and is championed by every group that wants to ban or confiscate guns.

    You are parroting all the anti gun arguments and you wonder why some think you are anti gun?
    Because he thinks he is fooling us by being a sheep in wolfs clothing.

    I mean how does someone jump from gun registration to pedophiles?

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    Really? Yeah, since when do we have to worry about sex predators, sociopaths, terrorists, psychopaths, and ex-felons....
    I don't... I own guns... and know how to use them.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So you want sexual predators, sociopaths, and terrorists to be free to buy guns without any background checks or registration. Gee, you're all about freedom aren't you?
    What? I don't want convicted criminals to be free to prey on folks at all. Why should everyone else have to play the high user fee game to buy/carry guns so that known extremely dangerous folks can roam about freely? Does registering cars keep criminals from using them?
    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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