View Poll Results: Who is more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun, or the one who doesn't?

Voters
48. You may not vote on this poll
  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

    38 79.17%
  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

    10 20.83%
Page 49 of 65 FirstFirst ... 39474849505159 ... LastLast
Results 481 to 490 of 641

Thread: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

  1. #481
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,733

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    FDR - ranked as one of three truly GREAT presidents of all time by the experts - even when the libertarians hand pick the panel. And I suspect they know his history even better than his modern rightist critics.
    yes, he was great because he was able to obtain his goals despite the obstacles the constitution imposed.

    many of those same historians rank Stalin as a GREAT wartime soviet leader.

    and your posts continually and dishonestly seem to think that FDR's rating makes his dishonesty acceptable



  2. #482
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:19 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    90,000

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    If you had an argument. You just lie about powers the constitution grants.
    If you can put the personal insults on hold for minute, feel free to quote me to back up your claims.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  3. #483
    Sage
    Glen Contrarian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Location
    Bernie to the left of me, Hillary to the right, here I am...
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 07:27 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Progressive
    Posts
    15,538

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    Would that include yourself?
    I don't own any guns. I'm retired military, got my weapons quals, owned guns at home...but I see no need to own them now. I've come to realize that if someone really wants to kill me, they'd get the drop on me anyway. And if I really, truly feel the need to kill someone, I don't need a gun to do it anyway. So why get a gun? Especially when I have teenagers in the house?
    To do evil, a human being must first of all believe that what hes doing is good" - Solzhenitsyn

    "...with the terrorists, you have to take out their families." - Donald Trump

  4. #484
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:19 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    90,000

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yes, he was great because he was able to obtain his goals despite the obstacles the constitution imposed.

    many of those same historians rank Stalin as a GREAT wartime soviet leader.

    and your posts continually and dishonestly seem to think that FDR's rating makes his dishonesty acceptable
    I never saw that poll with the same historians ranking STALIN as great. Lets see a link to it just to keep this an honest discussion based on verifiable fact.

    Evidently the American people found FDR more than acceptable - four different times no less. And their opinion counts a whole lot more than one person today.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  5. #485
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,733

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Those scholars on the Court support it. And that counts for a veritable mountain of anybody you want to select against them.
    that is another bogus answer. are you claiming FDR's minions on the court-the ones who suddenly started finding the New Deal " constitutional" after wetting themselves over the court packing threat were scholars

    appealing to dishonest authority is a failure in an argument Haymarket.

    I want you to tell us that YES THE COMMERCE CLAUSE WAS INTENDED BY THE FOUNDERS TO regulate what sort of small arms private citizens could own

    that is what you have to claim for your silly arguments to have any foundation



  6. #486
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:19 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    90,000

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that is another bogus answer.
    As it was true and honest it is absolutely a perfect answer.

    Did you find the link to the supposed Stalin poll that you said the same historians ranked him as GREAT in yet?
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  7. #487
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,733

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I never saw that poll with the same historians ranking STALIN as great. Lets see a link to it just to keep this an honest discussion based on verifiable fact.

    Evidently the American people found FDR more than acceptable - four different times no less. And their opinion counts a whole lot more than one person today.
    that's another bogus argument. popularity doesn't make a violation of the constitution correct.

    come on Haymarket-I want you to argue that the commerce clause was written with the intent to give the federal government the power to register handguns or to prevent people from owning a machine gun made after May 19, 1986



  8. #488
    warrior of the wetlands
    TurtleDude's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2005
    Location
    Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 05:46 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    180,733

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    As it was true and honest it is absolutely a perfect answer.

    Did you find the link to the supposed Stalin poll that you said the same historians ranked him as GREAT in yet?
    horsecrap. I guess we merely see that you cannot back up your claims



  9. #489
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:19 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    90,000

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    horsecrap. I guess we merely see that you cannot back up your claims
    You Turtle are the one who made the Stalin claim and despite being challenged to prove it have so offered offered us nothing to "back up your claims".

    So where is it?
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  10. #490
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 06:19 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    90,000

    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    that's another bogus argument. popularity doesn't make a violation of the constitution correct.

    come on Haymarket-I want you to argue that the commerce clause was written with the intent to give the federal government the power to register handguns or to prevent people from owning a machine gun made after May 19, 1986
    Let me understand this - you want to create my argument for me and then you want to argue against the very argument you created for me.

    You really do not need my involvement at all in that case as by our choice it will be you against you.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

Page 49 of 65 FirstFirst ... 39474849505159 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •