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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So first we get some here saying that people have no real right to their own fears and now we have you telling parents what they should teach their kids about guns. Wonderful.

    ANy other control you want to have over people and their lives?

    You can teach your kids anything you want. You want to do that, you do them a great disservice, even harm. And you can indulge your own unfounded fears all you want....just dont attempt to force them on others.

    You ignored most of the actual supporting content in the post, just cherry-picked.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa
    I guess parents should teach their kids not to be afraid of guns. As should school boards and the media in general. Those kids arent 'naturally' afraid of guns the way some people are afraid of heights. They were TAUGHT to perceive them in a certain way, much the way you seem to.

    Again...you blame the wrong people. And no harm was done, be real. Was all society brain damaged back in the days of the frontier when guns were carried openly, on wagons, on belts, on saddles? No....guns are tools and teaching kids otherwise is **doing them harm**. Dangerous tools to be respected? Yes, just like cars. Are kids terrified of cars? No? Why not? Thousands more of them die every year IN them and run over BY them than shot by guns.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    The question's easy - there's many people out there who feel that they need a gun (or guns), usually for self-defense, but sometimes because they believe the government just might come knocking to confiscate their guns.

    On the other hand, there's people out there (like myself) who simply don't want a gun, who doesn't have a need for one.

    So who, really, is the one who's more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun for self-defense, or the one who doesn't feel he needs a gun for self-defense?
    Not enough information to answer.

    Everyones motivation for having a gun may be different. Fear may be driving it, but isn't the only thing. Similarly, fear may drive the reason why someone doesn't want a gun for self-defense. Such as fear that they'll use it against an innocent person by mistake, or fear that they'll misfire it, or fear of having it in the home, etc.

    In terms of your OBVIOUS attempted point....boiling down either sides veiws regarding gun control as "fear" based is rather ridiculous.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Gimme a break already. Life is about choices and I guess somebody who wants top carry will have to decide between the tube top and dazy dukes and carrying with a CCW.
    And you claim I was trying to control people's lives???? Telling other people what *choices* to make with their wardrobe and comfort and safety? Not too dismissive

    You need to take a good long hard look in a mirror. You are way into the land of denial.
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    There's no doubt I keep a gun in my house because I'm afraid a disturbed person will break in with a gun themselves.

    If the US severely restricted gun ownership I wouldn't feel the need to own one.
    And it is purely because the US does NOT severely restrict gun ownership that would reassure me that I would not necessarily need to own one. We do of course--a hunting rifle that never gets hunted with--but I don't think about it as necessary for self defense because just about everybody we know has some sort of firearm. And I believe most of the 'bad guys' out there know that. I think we would be at much higher risk if the 'bad guys' thought the odds were in their favor that they wouldn't encounter a gun when they choose to do bad acts.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Terrific. And a fear of crime .... and for some a fear of the government .... and for some of fear of The Other are all fears which play into gun ownership at the levels we see in the USA today.
    Thomas Jefferson 'When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.'

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    who are THOSE?.....it must be gun owners
    It has already been clarified for you. Why would you ask yet again?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    Thomas Jefferson — 'When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty.'
    Bully for TJ. Did he mean those snappy words or just more TJ lies like the Declaration? ?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It has already been clarified for you. Why would you ask yet again?

    because you should have been clear instead of being ....vague..by the word ..those.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Bully for TJ. Did he mean those snappy words or just more TJ lies like the Declaration? ?
    Bully?...sounds like TR too me.....a progressive who thought he was king while president.

    you know just admitting you hate the founders and our founding documents, would go a long way in shining..your true feelings of america.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Terrific. And a fear of crime .... and for some a fear of the government .... and for some of fear of The Other are all fears which play into gun ownership at the levels we see in the USA today.
    but their supposed fear isn't restricting YOUR rights or the RIGHTS of anyone else

    the fear of the gun tremblers threatens our RIGHTS



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