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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

    38 79.17%
  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So first we get some here saying that people have no real right to their own fears and now we have you telling parents what they should teach their kids about guns. Wonderful.

    ANy other control you want to have over people and their lives?
    Oh you have the right to your own fears. What you don't have a right to do is to restrict my freedoms in order to salve your fears



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Carrying a firearm is like carrying a cell phone for some people...part of their daily habit. And if their style of clothing makes cc uncomfortable or impossible (to conceal) then it's just a matter of convenience. Certainly not intimidation.

    Some states have a stupid law that makes it illegal to 'print' but not open carry. So you can be arrested if someone 'notices' your gun under your clothes but not if you openly carry it. Hypocrisy at its best. So of course those people would OC rather than risk CC under T-shirt and shorts, for example.

    See the ridiculous (& I'd say useless) some of the restrictions and laws are against gun owners and carriers? And you think we want to open the door to more people who think garbage like that is 'reasonable?'
    Gimme a break already. Life is about choices and I guess somebody who wants top carry will have to decide between the tube top and dazy dukes and carrying with a CCW.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh you have the right to your own fears. What you don't have a right to do is to restrict my freedoms in order to salve your fears
    Nor do your fears causing you or others to have weapons - even lots of weapons - have anything to do with my rights.

    But since we are NOT talking about any freedom or right you have. So your post is irrelevant to my comment.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I don't know many-if any-gun owners who live in a pretend world. Gun owners tend to be more realistic and reality based then the pillow headed anti gunners who think the cops will always arrive on time or that they won't ever encounter a violent psychopath.

    its funny-most anti gunners I meet won't trust their fellow citizens, their neighbors and coworkers to carry a pistol or own an "assault weapon" but they trust criminals not to kill them and the government to be 100% beneficent
    That makes no sense. Quote for us the post of one person who says just what you claim - that people trust criminals not to kill them. Lets see it.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    So who, really, is the one who's more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun for self-defense, or the one who doesn't feel he needs a gun for self-defense?
    The one who are afraid of people simply because they possess guns.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Nor do your fears causing you or others to have weapons - even lots of weapons - have anything to do with my rights.

    But since we are NOT talking about any freedom or right you have. So your post is irrelevant to my comment.
    I have lots of weapons because I am a competitive shooter who enjoys competing-successfully in these sports

    1) ISU skeet
    2) ISU trap
    3) NSSA Skeet
    4) NSCA sporting clays
    5) Steel
    6) Pins
    7) USPSA-IPSC
    8) "falling plates
    9) Three position Small bore
    10) Bianchi Cup style events
    11) GSSF League

    among others. I only keep a few weapons for self defense-mainly pistols that I change depend on season and attire, one shotgun and one rifle



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    There's no doubt I keep a gun in my house because I'm afraid a disturbed person will break in with a gun themselves.

    If the US severely restricted gun ownership I wouldn't feel the need to own one.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I have lots of weapons because I am a competitive shooter who enjoys competing-successfully in these sports

    1) ISU skeet
    2) ISU trap
    3) NSSA Skeet
    4) NSCA sporting clays
    5) Steel
    6) Pins
    7) USPSA-IPSC
    8) "falling plates
    9) Three position Small bore
    10) Bianchi Cup style events
    11) GSSF League

    among others. I only keep a few weapons for self defense-mainly pistols that I change depend on season and attire, one shotgun and one rifle
    Terrific. And a fear of crime .... and for some a fear of the government .... and for some of fear of The Other are all fears which play into gun ownership at the levels we see in the USA today.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I really like this one .... Herr Barkmann tries to pretend I was attacking all gun owners when I was only discussing those who cannot tell the difference between the reality of the USA we live in and their self made pretend world.

    who are THOSE?.....it must be gun owners

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Loaded question.
    #1 should read "The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more naive."
    #2 should read "The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more naive."

    being "afraid" is the dumbest argument I ever heard. Worst poll I've read in my experience on these forums. You never NEED a gun, until you do. Ponder that logic for a minute OP.

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