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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    stupid question. the more valid dichotomy would be those who think its wise to have a gun for self defense vs those who are afraid to accept the risks of making their own safety a personal responsibility.



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's also not necessarily about wanting to protect yourself either. My sister and her husband are into collecting guns and competitive shooting and that kind of thing. I don't have any interest in it but they do. Zero fear involved. It's the people who feel the need to put a gun under their pillow because they're afraid someone is going to break in that we need to worry about.
    I wish that more from both sides of the aisle would understand that there's a lot of people who feel that way, who aren't so eager to use deadly force at the first opportunity.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I wish that more from both sides of the aisle would understand that there's a lot of people who feel that way, who aren't so eager to use deadly force at the first opportunity.
    Having shot someone since it was the ONLY option I had, I can tell you few, if any, sane people want to have to shoot someone. I course most of us don't want to be mugged, robbed or attacked either



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Per usual, the question presumes facts not in evidence.

    The desire to own a firearm is most often couched in the presumption that the individual is the first who should be responsible for their own safety and a firearm is simply part of being adequately prepared. It's like carrying a condom. You may not need it but when the time comes it's a good idea to have one.

    However, in the interests of humoring the OP, I as the following:

    Who is more afraid? The person who believes that all gun owners are violent assassins or the one who believes that gun owners are generally law abiding citizens who wish to exercise their God given rights?
    And from the other side of the coin, who's more afraid - the gun owners who are Absolutely Sure that liberals are out to take their guns and their 2A rights away, or the liberals who honestly support gun ownership as long as we can make sure that the owners are law-abiding citizens and not felons/sexual predators/terrorists/sociopaths/whatever?

    And btw - gun ownership is not a "God given right". In those days, ownership of a sword or a spear was never a right.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Guns are one of those things you don't need until you do. Then you wish you had one....or two or three....

    I'm not a doomsday prepper or anything like that, but, I do believe that we should all be prepared for an incident like Katrina or the L.A. riots. A time where you need to be able to self-sustain for about a week, defend yourself, and hunt if need be. A person without a gun can't really do those things when most of the aggressors around them will have one....or two or three. A gun is something I believe every household should have.
    I remember the days when I was - at least to some extent - what you would today call a 'doomsday prepper'. We were Absolutely Sure that the Soviets were going to launch any day now, so we had our guns and our plans and all the silly assumptions that young men tend to have before real maturity begins to give them a clue.

    And I don't need a gun to survive. I don't need one to hunt - people got by on hunting without guns for many millenia before guns were invented. The more important skill would be knowing what plants can and can't be eaten, and what they can be used for. That, and knowing how to stay hidden if need be...because if someone with a gun sees you first, he's got the drop on you. It doesn't matter if you've got a gun unless he's a lousy shot. On the one hand, having a gun gives you the opportunity to shoot back...but not having a gun makes you more careful...and perhaps more creative since you're forced to think outside the box.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    The question's easy - there's many people out there who feel that they need a gun (or guns), usually for self-defense, but sometimes because they believe the government just might come knocking to confiscate their guns.

    On the other hand, there's people out there (like myself) who simply don't want a gun, who doesn't have a need for one.

    So who, really, is the one who's more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun for self-defense, or the one who doesn't feel he needs a gun for self-defense?
    You're starting with the false assumption that fear is the motivating factor for owning a gun. It isn't. Most of the gun owners I know aren't operating out of fear, but they recognize that there are situations where a firearm is the best solution to a problem that needs immediate resolution. They aren't acting out of fear, but rather preparedness. I don't carry insurance on my car because I'm afraid of getting into an accident, I carry it because it the best way to deal with the cost of an accident. I'm not in fear, I'm prepared.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Having shot someone since it was the ONLY option I had, I can tell you few, if any, sane people want to have to shoot someone. I course most of us don't want to be mugged, robbed or attacked either
    And please notice that I don't doubt you on that.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I wish that more from both sides of the aisle would understand that there's a lot of people who feel that way, who aren't so eager to use deadly force at the first opportunity.
    I would use it if I had to, I just don't feel the need to stock up on guns and ammo in the perverse hope that someday, I'll be able to gun down an intruder. That seems to be an issue with some of the gun nuts. They not only prepare for it, they look forward to it.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Has been since the ratification in 1791. Try keeping up.
    I didn't realize the framers of our Constitution were God. Good to know.
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Being adequately equipped to defend yourself should the need arise? Yes.
    I can adequately defend myself and it has nothing to do with God or guns.

    It is interesting to see how far those who worship at the alter of the firearm are willing to go.
    Quote Originally Posted by NoC_T View Post
    What do firearms have to do with God? Or did God suddenly wink into existence with the advent of gunpowder?
    The answer is nothing, but then again, that's really just for people who aren't obsessed with guns.
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So you do not support the constitution? Since its inception the rights provided within are said to be "god given".
    Please direct me to the place where it says the Bill of Rights are god given. I want the exact quote. In fact, show me any place in the actual Constitution which mentions God.

    I'll wait.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I didn't realize the framers of our Constitution were God. Good to know.
    I can adequately defend myself and it has nothing to do with God or guns.

    It is interesting to see how far those who worship at the alter of the firearm are willing to go.
    The answer is nothing, but then again, that's really just for people who aren't obsessed with guns.
    Please direct me to the place where it says the Bill of Rights are god given. I want the exact quote. In fact, show me any place in the actual Constitution which mentions God.

    I'll wait.
    Once again, the Constitution does not grant rights to the people. It preserves rights which the people already had and delegates responsibilities to the government. I know that's a hard thing for you statists to get through your heads but I'll keep on throwing it out there and hoping that at some point it sticks.

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