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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the issue is-was the federal government PROPERLY delegated the power to regulate such things and if so, to what extent before such regulation violates the 2Ap

    the true answer is no-the federal government was not given such power. rather FDR and his minions though it should have been and rather than doing the honest thing, they just blatantly ignored the constitution and made the power up

    and you have been in favor of clearly unreasonable restrictions like idiotic magazine bans. there is no objective evidence that at some point a certain number of rounds become "unusually dangerous" or that banning a number above a set figure will increase public safety

    so your view of what is reasonable is rejected.
    Nothing is absolute and this issue was settled long ago. Government can regulate. The only question is how much. And yes, I do not think there is any safety issue with magazine limits. But we've gone over that. Here, let's focus on what we're actually discussing.

    1) Weapons are different than car alarms.

    2) no one is ever going to ban all weapons.

    The world us different today, for better if worse. That's just the reality.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    He chose not to engage me on the issue.
    If you wish to start a new issue with me, feel free. But when you leap into other conversations, it's helpful if you stay to that subject.

    And TD, I've never stopped talking to you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    We all pass judgment. It part of being human.
    The left is nothing if not nay-sayers of using good judgment.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nothing is absolute and this issue was settled long ago. Government can regulate. The only question is how much. And yes, I do not think there is any safety issue with magazine limits. But we've gone over that. Here, let's focus on what we're actually discussing.

    1) Weapons are different than car alarms.

    2) no one is ever going to ban all weapons.

    The world us different today, for better if worse. That's just the reality.
    I am not asking you to discuss the dishonesty of the FDR administration. I want you to tell me if you believe that action by FDR was proper and constitutional.

    of course no one is going to ban all weapons. but the left is doing what it can to get rid of pro gun groups who contribute a lot of money to the GOP. a complete gun ban is not needed to kill sport shooting and hunting and self defensive gun use

    what are you saying by you don't think there are any safety issues with magazine limits

    are you saying that public safety is not advanced with such limits or potential crime victims' safety is not decreased with magazine limits.

    the first position is sound, the second position is uber-moronic



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Boo spent hours saying that idiotic magazine restrictions were "reasonable" based on his claim that the chances of a citizen needing more than 7 rounds is small. He spent hundreds of posts trying to defend that idiocy by claiming that while you might need more than 7 rounds, it is very rare. He lost the argument when he conceded that he could not argue that there was any HARM in a citizen having more rounds. In other words, argument for the sake of argument rather than a reasonable claim of a trade off.
    Never claimed you might need seven rounds. I merely avoid absolutes. I asked you to show someone verifiably NEEDED seven rounds. You never did. And you silly when you try.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Never claimed you might need seven rounds. I merely avoid absolutes. I asked you to show someone verifiably NEEDED seven rounds. You never did. And you silly when you try.
    actually you got destroyed. I showed several shooting cases where more than 7 rounds were needed

    you conceded there is absolutely no deleterious impact in citizens having 15 or 20 shot magazines and given no downside, it only makes sense to have more rounds than needed to solve a problem then less

    your recollection of what happened is dishonest or faulty

    if there is no downside to me doing something and there is even a very slight chance of a benefit in me doing something, common sense dictates doing that thing is the smart choice



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    I have often wondered how the federal government can create any legislation concerning firearms of the people ...since they are forbidden by the constitution from doing so.
    sadly FDR and his lapdog justices and minions in congress believed that federal regulation was a good thing and that "good thing" was more important than following the constitution.



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually you got destroyed. I showed several shooting cases where more than 7 rounds were needed

    you conceded there is absolutely no deleterious impact in citizens having 15 or 20 shot magazines and given no downside, it only makes sense to have more rounds than needed to solve a problem then less

    your recollection of what happened is dishonest or faulty

    if there is no downside to me doing something and there is even a very slight chance of a benefit in me doing something, common sense dictates doing that thing is the smart choice
    Why not approach this from the angle of okay let's assume 7 rounds/mag are adequate, how many mags am I allowed to have in my possession?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Why not approach this from the angle of okay let's assume 7 rounds/mag are adequate, how many mags am I allowed to have in my possession?
    that's really stupid. I am a pretty good steel shooter, I see hard core shooters vying for 20 dollar prizes bobble reloads all the time. do you want to have to reload while someone is shooting at you or you have been wounded?

    why do you even entertain the validity of such a moronic law

    I want that asshole Cuomo's guards to be limited to 7 shots



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Why not approach this from the angle of okay let's assume 7 rounds/mag are adequate, how many mags am I allowed to have in my possession?
    IMO the proper amount of ammo per mag is the maximum possible within whatever paramaters exist, which include the size of both weapon and ammo, along with how rapidly you want to reload and how many rounds you want to fire before reloading.

    For example you COULD build a drum mag of some sort to feed rounds to a semi-auto pistol (or even a full-auto pistol), but any advantage having 50-100+ rounds available might convey is offset by how ridiculously unwieldy the resulting amalgamation would be.

    There's a reason LMG's (I think) and definitely heavier weapons are carried/serviced by a team, in the military.
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