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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Meh, no different from...and considerably less widespread...than the 'humorous' comparisons between cars and penis size.
    Although I was born and raised in greater Detroit I am not familiar with such comparisons. But I guess its possible.

    For the record, I have always preferred larger and more roomy cars.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    An interesting premise. Could you then post some authoritative information on that so we can see if it is accurate or merely your low opinion of people who disagree with you?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Acting out; e.g., Obama is pro gun control, that is to say more rigorous background checks, more regulation of high capacity ammunition clips.
    Then, people hear this and think, oh, he's going to try to regulate the kinds of guns and ammunition we buy now, darn, we's better go out and purchase all we can, while we can, acting out of fear of the unknown, or acting out of fear because somebody said the gubbermint is going to take our guns, and take away our rights to own guns.

    I fear no evil.
    I don't fear evil. But I am very concerned about Homeland Security quietly buying up weapons and ammo and even more concerned about a federal agency playing politics, which the IRS has been doing. I think all good citizens, irrespective of political party or view, should be tremendously concerned.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Seems to me a lot of people are confusing reasonable and legitimate concerns with the emotion of fearfulness. The two are not the same.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I told you to read A NATION OF COWARDS by Snyder
    do you mean this?

    A Nation of Cowards

    I did read it. And there is nothing in there except a mirror of your opinion on these matters. There is absoloutely no verifiable evidence to support your previous statement that I asked about

    gun haters have many motivations. one of the motivations comes from the feelings of inadequacy that cowards have
    While the Snyder opinion in many areas mirrors your own - it is but personal opinion and there is nothing in the way of any data or actual study to support the personal opinion that people who advocate gun laws are cowards. It seems a simple insult and slur against ones political enemies more than anything else approaching actual provable research.

    Is there some research I am missing?

    Is there something more in the way of data to this Snyder polemic than this that I read other than lots of opinion and vitriol?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Seems to me a lot of people are confusing reasonable and legitimate concerns with the emotion of fearfulness. The two are not the same.
    In all fairness Goshin, I suspect most people truly believe that their own personal concerns are indeed "reasonable and legitimate" and those of their enemies are not so.

    So saying what you said really only justifies ones own view and brings comfort to their allies.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    In all fairness Goshin, I suspect most people truly believe that their own personal concerns are indeed "reasonable and legitimate" and those of their enemies are not so.

    So saying what you said really only justifies ones own view and brings comfort to their allies.
    They cant be that far out there or 'individualized' if the courts use a 'reasonable man' standard for juries. That indicates the expectation of a larger area of common ground.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    They cant be that far out there or 'individualized' if the courts use a 'reasonable man' standard for juries. That indicates the expectation of a larger area of common ground.
    So lets look at what a reasonable person may conclude based on pure data then. Given that guns are the number one weapon in murders by a far far margin, is it reasonable that a rational person may fear a gun and the results of it in their or their families lives?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    The most afraid are those who fear the gun itself and want to take away someone else's right to own one.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't fear evil. But I am very concerned about Homeland Security quietly buying up weapons and ammo and even more concerned about a federal agency playing politics, which the IRS has been doing. I think all good citizens, irrespective of political party or view, should be tremendously concerned.
    I sleep very well at night.

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