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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You ask an excellent question. Over and over and over again in gun thread after gun thread after gun thread the toadies and sycophants of the gun lobby who want a guncentric America keep insulting people who disagree with them peering down the edge of their nose, wagging their judgemntal finger and dripping with faux superior condescension proclaim that people who want reasonable gun regulation are AFRAID. The mock and laugh and say such folks are motivated by fear and emotion.

    There is an old saying that when you point an accusatory finger at others you have three more of your own pointing right back at you. The gun community is so motivated and so obsessed with fear that it is the life blood of their ideology. They are afraid of crime. They are afraid of The Other. They have delusional fantasies of fear that the mean old US government is going to ship them off to the camps in Malibu.

    FEAR FEAR FEAR.

    It makes up their very fiber of being and chokes all off reason and common sense with them.
    Here's an article I wrote for Blogcritics a few years back. It turns out that studies show that a person with a larger amygdala (a certain part of the brain) is significantly more likely to be conservative. Thing is, the larger the amygdala a person has, the more alert and oriented towards threats that person generally is. And IMO that's probably why the fear and conspiracy-theory claims are so prevalent in right-wing media and punditry - all of their ludicrous claims, accusations, and conspiracy theories are so silly to you and me...but to those who are more threat-oriented, such might well be very credible. This would explain why they simply don't see through all the silly crap they're being fed by right-wing media.

    But what really sucks is that the research about the amygdala shows there might be a biological basis for all that. This biological basis doesn't make them better or worse, just more oriented towards threats.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    The claim was that they were bought out of fear of crime. So? Has nothing to do with lethality. Has to do with motivation to own/employ.
    The reactions do. And that is what I was discussing with TD, the reactions by people to restrictions. No one wants to restrict guns for just being. They are often motivated by lethal events. Right or wrong, they can point to those. They can't with car alarms.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    yes - the things you cited are also aided by fear. As to being "completely fear based" ... I doubt it althought I suspect it is significant.
    Really? How else do you look at house fires? Or my other example about preparing you kids so they are not kidnapped by strangers?

    Home security alert systems with panic buttons are not about property....they are about people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if the government can arbitrarily limit your weapon to ten shots based on nothing more than picking a number
    what is to stop it from limiting your gun to one shot

    are you familiar with what Cuomo did in NY? what was the instigating crime that caused him to push for a 7 round limit


    Here is a solution-citizens in a given state can have the same capacity weapons as the police. how about that
    But our constitution says we have the right to bears arms, and never said what type or kind of arms. Should we take that as meaning everyone can own a Howitzer or a RPG?

    Should the gubbermint have the authority, be it state or federal to write laws governing firearms, or should we just interpret the constitution any which way an individual pleases?

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes, that is 100% true. Which is why it is so amazing when people on the gun lobby side attempt to insult people who disagree with them calling them things like "fear driven" or accusing them of being emotional rather than factual when the emotions of gun supporters and in fact the entire industry is significantly driven by their own fears and emotions. They are guilty of the very thing they accuse their enemies of.
    I believe it's about feeling like you are in control of your own fate....as much as that is possible. A firearm may increase your chances of choosing your own fate. "(How dare the govt try and restrict your ability to protect yourself and your family? It's obvious the systems they have in place cannot.")

    The govt trying to take guns or even restrict them, is also associated with control....if they can come and take something that is Constitutionally recognized as your right...or even seek more control over it....then what stops them from doing so with your other rights?

    As a matter of fact, there is one expression that I've read that says the right to keep and bear arms enables us to preserve all the others.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So you do not support the constitution? Since its inception the rights provided within are said to be "god given".
    And what? I could make any statement I please. God didn't write the Constitution.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Did God wink into existence healthcare, because some think they have a right to that?
    Amend the Constitution to support that belief and it becomes the word of God, or so I'm told.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I wonder why recently people fear the gubbermint? Don't they know of the checks and balances it would take to pass constitutional amendments or to change wording in that? Seems people are acting out of not knowing and desperation over what people talk about on MSM and talk radio, seems they're being fed bad pablum.
    Why do you say 'recently?'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Why do you say 'recently?'
    Okay, ya got me on that. As a person who was cornfused about joining the hippie movement peace, love and all that in the 60's, I opted for military service, man were some military people paranoids! Hippies I knew sat around all day long, when they weren't working, blowing weed, drinking MD 20/20 and Ripple, talking about how scary the US gubbermint was. Maybe because they got their booties kicked by cops for staging sit-ins?

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I strongly suspect it has to do with history and the role government plays in our nation. During the Gilded Age government power was firmly and deeply on the side of business, corporations and the wealthy and you rarely saw anything about the big bad government. Then in the Progressive era starting at the turn of the century, government became more of an impartial referee in some areas and the wealthy did not like that. Then many saw the New Deal as putting government far too often on the side of the average person and that seemed to be the straw that broke the camel back of the far right.

    And do you not see how unaware they were of who was running the show? Just because they felt that they were 'better' off but were more like pet finches in those gilded cages? The regular people didnt cause the Depression....the luck just ran out for a lot of 'Big Business' and the regular people suffered too. But they blamed the govt? Yes....but as you say, BB was pretty much running the show.

    Just because people 'believe' something doesnt make them correct.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bucky View Post
    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
    Quote Originally Posted by applejuicefool View Post
    A murderer putting a bullet through someone's brain is a medical procedure too.

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