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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    That assumes one is clueless about the purpose and intent of the 2A and the Heller decision. it also is a bright line test that allows an objective standard rather than the dishonest excrement Democrats spew like 7 round limits which are based on nothing more than a number an asshole named Cuomo pulled out his ass
    I said no LOGICAL reason for you to make the connection.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And that is the position you really want to take? You have a right to pass judgment upon what fears a person can have because others call you names?

    Amazing!!!!
    CC doesn't wish to limit YOUR rights. that's the big difference You have supported crap like registration (that requires people to take an affirmative and often costly action), and magazine limits. You have indicated that if the legislature banned all but a few types of guns, that would be proper as well



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as I have noted, most people who support additional restrictions that only apply to those of us who can legally own guns, won't tell us their ultimate goals

    but when you see someone claiming honest citizens should not be able to own say a 20 round magazine or a legal machine gun, that person has pretty much adopted the gun banner mindset
    If you say so.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I said no LOGICAL reason for you to make the connection.
    it is quite logical to establish a common sense line based on what the government considers suitable for civilian employees of a civilian agency to use in a civilian environment for self defense against the same criminals who prey on other civilians. It also is based on an estoppel argument



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    If you say so.
    actually people like you say it loud and clear. when your arguments are evasive, contradictory and contrary to known reality a rational man assumes your real goals are gun bans



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Passing judgment upon the behavior of others is indeed common. Passing judgment on what fear a person may have is playing god and the height of arrogance.
    So I am arrogant? Big deal? What does that have to do with the OP?

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    CC doesn't wish to limit YOUR rights. that's the big difference You have supported crap like registration (that requires people to take an affirmative and often costly action), and magazine limits. You have indicated that if the legislature banned all but a few types of guns, that would be proper as well
    And I would also not negate anyones rights.

    So are you excusing his passing judgment upon the issue of what fears a person may have?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    So I am arrogant? Big deal? What does that have to do with the OP?
    The issue is that FEAR is widespread enough to be a strong motivator on all sides of this issue.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually people like you say it loud and clear. when your arguments are evasive, contradictory and contrary to known reality a rational man assumes your real goals are gun bans
    What does that mean "contrary to know reality"? What KNOWN REALITY are you speaking of that causes you to pass judgment about somebody and what they believe if it is not said?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    actually people like you say it loud and clear. when your arguments are evasive, contradictory and contrary to known reality a rational man assumes your real goals are gun bans
    Your imagination runs away from you a lot. For some reason, you are an all or nothing guy. There are degrees. Restrictions, checks and registrations are not bans.

    I told you before, the world has choices beyond just 0 and 1.

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