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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if civilian law enforcement agencies have it, then other citizens should have it
    after all police officers are not engaged in military operations against military targets but rather are limited to using weapons for self defense-just like you and I are
    Yes, I know you believe that but there is no logical reason to make that connection as a matter of public policy.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Same right as many people have for calling me "bigot, gun nut, redneck, homophobe" and the sort.
    And that is the position you really want to take? You have a right to pass judgment upon what fears a person can have because others call you names?

    Amazing!!!!
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    The question's easy - there's many people out there who feel that they need a gun (or guns), usually for self-defense, but sometimes because they believe the government just might come knocking to confiscate their guns.

    On the other hand, there's people out there (like myself) who simply don't want a gun, who doesn't have a need for one.

    So who, really, is the one who's more afraid? The one who feels he needs a gun for self-defense, or the one who doesn't feel he needs a gun for self-defense?
    When the time comes you really need a gun nothing else will do. The same goes for insurance. Damn near everyone has insurance. Everyone hopes they'll never need it.

    When your safety has been violated, when you have been harmed, when you are threatened with extreme violence the first person you call for support and protection has a gun.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    afraid of what specifically?

    Is their so called FEAR any different than the fear that motivates some gun owners to buy guns in the first place?

    Is their so called FEAR any different that the fear the far right has of an oppressive government about to ship them into camps and take away all their rights and property motivating them to purchase weapons?

    Fear is Fear Turtle - almost nobody is free from it nor does any group have the market cornered on it.
    I think for those who are operatives of the DNC, the main fear is the political reality that groups like the NRA tend to support the GOP.



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those who want to ban peaceful citizens owning guns are the ones who are afraid. that is beyond any dispute
    Where did I say the word "ban"? Seems to me someone up there is so afraid that they are seeing words that were never written

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yes, I know you believe that but there is no logical reason to make that connection as a matter of public policy.
    That assumes one is clueless about the purpose and intent of the 2A and the Heller decision. it also is a bright line test that allows an objective standard rather than the dishonest excrement Democrats spew like 7 round limits which are based on nothing more than a number an asshole named Cuomo pulled out his ass



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And that is the position you really want to take? You have a right to pass judgment upon what fears a person can have because others call you names?

    Amazing!!!!
    We all pass judgment. It part of being human.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Where did I say the word "ban"? Seems to me someone up there is so afraid that they are seeing words that were never written
    as I have noted, most people who support additional restrictions that only apply to those of us who can legally own guns, won't tell us their ultimate goals

    but when you see someone claiming honest citizens should not be able to own say a 20 round magazine or a legal machine gun, that person has pretty much adopted the gun banner mindset



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think for those who are operatives of the DNC, the main fear is the political reality that groups like the NRA tend to support the GOP.
    Yes, that is what you think and you have a right to think it but it is irrelevant to the topic being discussed. It is also something that can never ever be proven so is rather pointless to keep claiming as it leads the discussion nowhere.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    We all pass judgment. It part of being human.
    Passing judgment upon the behavior of others is indeed common. Passing judgment on what fear a person may have is playing god and the height of arrogance.
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