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  • The person who feels he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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  • The person who does NOT feel he needs a gun is the one who's more afraid.

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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Acting out; e.g., Obama is pro gun control, that is to say more rigorous background checks, more regulation of high capacity ammunition clips.
    Then, people hear this and think, oh, he's going to try to regulate the kinds of guns and ammunition we buy now, darn, we's better go out and purchase all we can, while we can, acting out of fear of the unknown, or acting out of fear because somebody said the gubbermint is going to take our guns, and take away our rights to own guns.

    I fear no evil.

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    if the government can arbitrarily limit your weapon to ten shots based on nothing more than picking a number
    what is to stop it from limiting your gun to one shot

    are you familiar with what Cuomo did in NY? what was the instigating crime that caused him to push for a 7 round limit


    Here is a solution-citizens in a given state can have the same capacity weapons as the police. how about that



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Oh Reagan was pandering to the "we have to do something bit" after he left office.
    Regardless of how you chose to rationalize his actions or excuse his actions - he supported legislation which you loathe and oppose. And he was a Republican. That is simply reality and historical fact.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I strongly suspect it has to do with history and the role government plays in our nation. During the Gilded Age government power was firmly and deeply on the side of business, corporations and the wealthy and you rarely saw anything about the big bad government. Then in the Progressive era starting at the turn of the century, government became more of an impartial referee in some areas and the wealthy did not like that. Then many saw the New Deal as putting government far too often on the side of the average person and that seemed to be the straw that broke the camel back of the far right.
    LOL-the progressive era was anti business and pro socialism: pandering to failure so those who did nothing useful could become rich and powerful



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Seems pretty obvious that the one needing a gun is the one who is afraid. However, I am sure the gunners will find a way to twist this to mean that those who don't need guns are the ones who are really afraid.
    those who want to ban peaceful citizens owning guns are the ones who are afraid. that is beyond any dispute



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    if the government can arbitrarily limit your weapon to ten shots based on nothing more than picking a number
    what is to stop it from limiting your gun to one shot

    are you familiar with what Cuomo did in NY? what was the instigating crime that caused him to push for a 7 round limit


    Here is a solution-citizens in a given state can have the same capacity weapons as the police. how about that
    So outside of the limits of ever expanding technology and the ability of one to purchase or obtain ever more powerful weaponry - you see no reason to limit weaponry in our society?
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So you can think of no rational reason why normal people would have a fear of guns?
    sure, if you engage in activities that would cause normal people to shoot you, I can see such a person having a fear of guns



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Regardless of how you chose to rationalize his actions or excuse his actions - he supported legislation which you loathe and oppose. And he was a Republican. That is simply reality and historical fact.
    what legislation did he support while in office?



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So outside of the limits of ever expanding technology and the ability of one to purchase or obtain ever more powerful weaponry - you see no reason to limit weaponry in our society?
    if civilian law enforcement agencies have it, then other citizens should have it
    after all police officers are not engaged in military operations against military targets but rather are limited to using weapons for self defense-just like you and I are



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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    those who want to ban peaceful citizens owning guns are the ones who are afraid. that is beyond any dispute
    afraid of what specifically?

    Is their so called FEAR any different than the fear that motivates some gun owners to buy guns in the first place?

    Is their so called FEAR any different that the fear the far right has of an oppressive government about to ship them into camps and take away all their rights and property motivating them to purchase weapons?

    Fear is Fear Turtle - almost nobody is free from it nor does any group have the market cornered on it.
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    Re: Who Is More Afraid? The One Who Feels He Needs a Gun? Or the One Who Doesn't?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I would speculate that if baseball bats were the number one weapon of choice in murders each year that yes indeed people would fear them. What right do you have to pass judgment upon what people fear and what they should not fear? The fact that you take this tact tells me volumes about your ostrich like head-in-the-sand denial of basic reality on this issue.
    Same right as many people have for calling me "bigot, gun nut, redneck, homophobe" and the sort.

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