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    Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Pope demands 'legitimate redistribution' of wealth

    Pope Francis called Friday for governments to redistribute wealth to the poor in a new spirit of generosity to help curb the "economy of exclusion" that is taking hold today.

    Francis made the appeal during a speech to U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon and the heads of major U.N. agencies who met in Rome this week.

    Latin America's first pope has frequently lashed out at the injustices of capitalism and the global economic system that excludes so much of humanity, though his predecessors have voiced similar concerns.

    On Friday, Francis called for the United Nations to promote a "worldwide ethical mobilization" of solidarity with the poor in a new spirit of generosity.

    He said a more equal form of economic progress can be had through "the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the state, as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society."

    Francis voiced a similar message to the World Economic Forum in January and in his apostolic exhortation "The Joy of the Gospel." That document, which denounced trickle-down economic theories as unproven and naive, provoked accusations in the U.S. that he was a Marxist.

    Wealth redistribution advocation seems a little Marxist in nature. I'm not sure if he meant this literally or as a change in attitude from the corporate power structure?
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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Do not listen to the pope he is no more then a figure head that the powers that be use to control a largely false "religion".

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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Pope demands 'legitimate redistribution' of wealth




    Wealth redistribution advocation seems a little Marxist in nature. I'm not sure if he meant this literally or as a change in attitude from the corporate power structure?
    Yeah earlier I heard he said that.
    I had the same thought you did.
    It does require more of an explanation ... from him.
    He can't be that naïve.
    Imagine the rash of Papal woodies going around the Dem caucus today?

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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Let's hope he meant "A hand up and not a hand out"
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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    I suppose it all depends upon how you define the word. I doubt very much if he believes industries should be run by the government, but I do believe he feels government should help the people especially the disadvantaged.


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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Pope demands 'legitimate redistribution' of wealth


    Wealth redistribution advocation seems a little Marxist in nature. I'm not sure if he meant this literally or as a change in attitude from the corporate power structure?
    The Pope takes his cues from the Gospel and the teachings of Christ. He doesn't really care about the politics of the situation.

    It's really only interesting from the perspective of the American right vs. left paradigm (which in most other places would be the moderate left vs. less moderate left). You see it here in this thread with comments about the "left" having "Papal woodies." Their feelings are hurt that he's not one of them.


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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    He's certainly been influenced by liberation theology. Don't think he'll be giving sermons with an AK slung to his back anytime soon though.

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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Yeah earlier I heard he said that.
    I had the same thought you did.
    It does require more of an explanation ... from him.
    He can't be that naïve.
    Imagine the rash of Papal woodies going around the Dem caucus today?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    The Pope takes his cues from the Gospel and the teachings of Christ. He doesn't really care about the politics of the situation.

    It's really only interesting from the perspective of the American right vs. left paradigm (which in most other places would be the moderate left vs. less moderate left). You see it here in this thread with comments about the "left" having "Papal woodies." Their feelings are hurt that he's not one of them.

    I'm sure he means it symbolically. He's not unrealistic enough to believe that the wealthy corporations will suddenly give away their money. But his intent is probably more in the line of admonishing, "how it's destructively greedy and unchristian to take so much, even legally".
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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    He's certainly been influenced by liberation theology. Don't think he'll be giving sermons with an AK slung to his back anytime soon though.

    It clashes with the skullcap.


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    Re: Is the Pope a Socialist?

    Quote Originally Posted by grip View Post
    Pope demands 'legitimate redistribution' of wealth




    Wealth redistribution advocation seems a little Marxist in nature. I'm not sure if he meant this literally or as a change in attitude from the corporate power structure?
    Since he says he believes that. Is he going to start by redistributing all the wealth the Catholic Church has? Is he going to give up his luxuries? What is the total value of all the artwork, gold and other holdings of the Catholic Church?
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