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Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

Are Affirmative Action programs racist?


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1.)What is AA? How does it work? You might be right. I am trying to look it up right now. I think what I was referring was racial quotas.
2.)I thought racial quotas was the same thing as Affirmative Action. What is Affirmative Action?

1.) racial quotas ARE illegal and that i snot AA/EEO
AA/EEO are laws that make it ILLEGAL to make any hiring, firing, promotional, training, monetary, and benefit decisions based on race.

2.) no not by today current laws, again qoutas are illegal
 
I was looking this up. I think you are referring to racial quotas. Affirmative Action is the practice of aggressively advertising job openings to minorities but does not require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Racial quotas do require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Affirmative action is not the same thing as racial quotas.

The federal government does practice racial quotas.

Yup unqualified people working in our federal .gov do you understand why America is toast now?
 
Here is something that I found. I guess I didn't realize what Affirmative Action was. I was thinking of racial quotas. The Marine Corps does practice racial quotas. To my understanding racial quotas would violate EEO laws.

correct AA/EEO laws are not based on qoutas and in reality they apply to use all and protect us all.

THe confusion people have is that orgs have had quotas or have hired based on race gender etc and CALLED it an AA/EEO program but its not and they have gotten in trouble for it. They tried, and failed, to say they were simply implementing an AA/EEO program but when push came to shove they were found in violation of the law.

Now some people who are simply misinformed run with there defense and assume they were practicing AA/EEO.

Of they have some life event or story that this girl or minority etc etc was hired over this person BECAUSE of AA/EEO and that is false. They can think that, they may have been told that but its false and not the case. AA/EEO does not allow that.
 
They can think that,

I think it would be better if they knew the difference between Equal Employment Opportunity, Affirmative Action and racial quotas.

I didn't know the difference until just a few minutes ago.
 
It's just the government. They aren't hurting anybody.


you do realize we have members of congress that believe islands can flip over. Others think our constitution is 400 years old and that they should be writing obamas executive orders. i am doubting she understands she is supposed to writing the laws anyway. want me post the proof? i will just ask.
 
Don't forget that part. It's what blacks suffer in this country and whites do not.

#2 was not a part, it was a seperate definition than the other 2 parts.

You don't need all 3 parts to be present for racism to exist.
 
I wonder how many people of color are with the Heritage Foundation has?

I don't know but it is a very large group with many pages of names, titles, and photos. It appears to be very ethnically and racially diverse with numerous Hispanics, Asians, African Americans and a number who are racially ambiguous and I really couldn't tell via name or photo. Just quickly scanning just under half the group, I was able to identify 11 people who were clearly African American including the Senior Production Specialist, the Director of Marketing, Research Programmer and policy analyst, Tech Services Managr, Sr Staff Associate, Internal Events Manager and others. Or check it out yourself here: Team

Does that help?
 
I think it would be better if they knew the difference between Equal Employment Opportunity, Affirmative Action and racial quotas.

I didn't know the difference until just a few minutes ago.

you are correct and many people ASSUME what they are

or they have an illogical fear that if they dont have a woman, a minority, a Muslim, an old person and young person etc they will get sued and lose. But the reality is they are much more likely to be found doing somethign illegal if they do not practice AA/EEO and do give special treatment.

Good job and that is meant with ZERO sarcasm

no matter what a person posts it takes an amount of integrity to simply admit when a person makes a mistake or simply didnt know somethign and you just did so. No matter what it can be said you have shown integrity and i think thats more important than most things here.
 
Those who believe in affirmative action are absolutely racist.

Anyone who believes minorities need a quota system for equality is making the indirect statement that minorities are not as good as other people.

Believing one race is inferior to another is the root definition of racism.
 
I think it would be better if they knew the difference between Equal Employment Opportunity, Affirmative Action and racial quotas.

I didn't know the difference until just a few minutes ago.

True, and affirmative action was once a proper equal opportunity program. The problem is that in recent decades, affirmative action almost always means a quota system.
 
you do realize we have members of congress that believe islands can flip over. Others think our constitution is 400 years old and that they should be writing obamas executive orders. i am doubting she understands she is supposed to writing the laws anyway. want me post the proof? i will just ask.

I'm still waiting for that fateful day when Guam capsizes.
 
Affirmative action is the process of requiring large organizations to promote and hire employees in a way that ensure that the same percentage of applicants from each race group is equally represented in the hiring or promotion process.

Here is an example if you have 1000 applicants and 100 positions.

120 applicants are black
40 applicants are hispanic
20 applicants are asian
820 applicants are white

The company is required to hire these type of employees:

12 black people
4 hispanic people
2 asian people
82 white people

It gives equal opportunity for all race groups to cry foul. It is always administered the exact same way every single time.
Wow...

That is a stupid method.

What if 1,000 crack heads decided to apply for the job also?
 
I don't know but it is a very large group with many pages of names, titles, and photos. It appears to be very ethnically and racially diverse with numerous Hispanics, Asians, African Americans and a number who are racially ambiguous and I really couldn't tell via name or photo. Just quickly scanning just under half the group, I was able to identify 11 people who were clearly African American including the Senior Production Specialist, the Director of Marketing, Research Programmer and policy analyst, Tech Services Managr, Sr Staff Associate, Internal Events Manager and others. Or check it out yourself here: Team

Does that help?
Eleven people? wow, that's a lot. :roll:
The NAACP is quite diverse too, why would anyone call them a racist organization? Being so diverse.
 
Eleven people? wow, that's a lot. :roll:
The NAACP is quite diverse too, why would anyone call them a racist organization? Being so diverse.

Sigh. You don't read well do you. So many people who post ad hominem don't. :( Oh well. Too bad for you.

Those who DO read well will see that the Heritage Foundation does a really good job recruiting a broad cross section of Americana onto their team. I would not see any need for the NAACP to be racially diverse, however, given the purpose and mission of that organization.
 
Eleven people? wow, that's a lot. :roll:
The NAACP is quite diverse too, why would anyone call them a racist organization? Being so diverse.

They only have 173 employees. Yes, it's a lot. How many should they have? 171?
 
What's racist about saying that one race is incapable of equaling the other without special benefits?
 
Sigh. You don't read well do you. So many people who post ad hominem don't. :( Oh well. Too bad for you.

Those who DO read well will see that the Heritage Foundation does a really good job recruiting a broad cross section of Americana onto their team. I would not see any need for the NAACP to be racially diverse, however, given the purpose and mission of that organization.

:lamo
 
Any program that awards any special treatment do to skin color is government sponsored racism.
 
Any program that awards any special treatment do to skin color is government sponsored racism.

So how do you correct hundreds of years of government sponsored enslavement, torture, rape, and psychological abuse that was directed against blacks without having programs that are specifically designed to give blacks a boost to compensate for the extreme obstacles that were put in their path?
 
So how do you correct hundreds of years of government sponsored enslavement, torture, rape, and psychological abuse that was directed against blacks without having programs that are specifically designed to give blacks a boost to compensate for the extreme obstacles that were put in their path?

Make sure they have the same standings in the law and the laws are evenly applied to everyone regardless of race.
 
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