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Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

Are Affirmative Action programs racist?

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AGENT J said:
SO you cant despute those facts??
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You have no facts, you only have ignorant ranting. The definition is clear: systemic implications are part of racism. And it's a part that cannot be ignored.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
Wow! Is that really the way it works for every single person including you?
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I havent given any opinions here i have only stated what AA/EEO factually is. Sorry these facts bother you.
 
ecofarm said:
You have no facts, you only have ignorant ranting. The definition is clear: systemic implications are part of racism.
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and that does ZERO to negate my two statments, You want only your definition to apply but thats not how facts work they will defeat you every time lol

I ask you again to PLEASE PLEASE provide ONE single fact that negates the two facts i posted . . . ONE
every time your posts runs away from this and doges it your post fails again

AA/EEO is factually not racism, and a black man not giving you a job because you are white is factually racism. How can you prove these two fact wrong, please do so now.
 
MrVicchio said:
This thread isn't about diversity. It's about AA.
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AA is not about diversity and mitigating social injustice? Oh right... that IS was AA is about.

But feel free to continue your ignorant "mocking" of others. It only makes the more affluent position all the more clear.
 
AGENT J said:
and that does ZERO to negate my two statments, You want only your definition to apply but thats not how facts work they will defeat you every time lol

I ask you again to PLEASE PLEASE provide ONE single fact that negates the two facts i posted . . . ONE
every time your posts runs away from this and doges it your post fails again

AA/EEO is factually not racism, and a black man not giving you a job because you are white is factually racism. How can you prove these two fact wrong, please do so now.
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I will not be responding to frothing ignorance any longer today. Read the whole definition, and...

Good day.
 
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ecofarm said:
I will not be responding to frothing ignorance any longer today.

Good day.
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I accept your concession, let us know when you have somethign to disprove those facts and support your failed and factually proven wrong claims, we'd love to read it thanks.
You have a good day also.
 
ecofarm said:
AA is not about diversity and mitigating social injustice? Oh right... that IS was AA is about.

But feel free to continue your ignorant "mocking" of others. It only makes the more affluent position all the more clear.
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Crying victim merely enables failure. I don't have much time for people that put their faith in others making their lives better.
 
MrVicchio said:
Crying victim merely enables failure. I don't have much time for people that put their faith in others making their lives better.
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Then stop crying victim.
 
AGENT J said:
I havent given any opinions here i have only stated what AA/EEO factually is. Sorry these facts bother you.
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The Federal government is the only entity that practices Affirmative Action. Do you work for a federal contractor or an agency of the federal government?

What is the name of your company? That way we can report you for discriminating against job applicants based upon race. That is illegal and you know it.

I was in the Marine Corps and saw the promotion list for officers. Affirmative Action was practiced by the Marine Corps in 2002. The Marine Corps was required by law to promote officers based upon their race.

This was exactly how it was done. I'm sorry that I don't remember the exact numbers but this is the exact formula.

200 black Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
100 hispanic Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
50 asian Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
650 white Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col

Only 100 spots for Lt Col were available. The Marine was required by law to promote 20 black people, 10 black people, 5 asian people and 65 white people. Private companies, state governments, local governments and non-profits are not allowed to engage in this practice.

Are you talking about a federal contractor? Are you talking about a federal agency? Are you lying? Affirmative Action is illegal. It was replaced with Equal Opportunity laws.
 
AJiveMan said:
Some are drawing to the conclusion that the NAACP is racist. I was wondering if Heritage is.
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Huh? Heritage wasn't founded to advance white people.

They have about 200 employees. Call them up and see how many black ones they have.
 
ecofarm said:
I will not be responding to frothing ignorance any longer today. Read the whole definition, and...

Good day.
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I try to ignore him too. I don't know why he is so addictive.

I am very ashamed of my inability to ignore Agent J:fueltofir He is kind of a big deal. :shrug:
 
AJiveMan said:
No proof, just repeat.
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National association for the advancement of colored people, hell the racism is in the name for christ sake.
 
vasuderatorrent said:
1.)The Federal government is the only entity that practices Affirmative Action. Do you work for a federal contractor or an agency of the federal government?
2.)What is the name of your company?
3.) That way we can report you for discriminating against job applicants based upon race.
4.)That is illegal and you know it.
5.)I was in the Marine Corps and saw the promotion list for officers. Affirmative Action was practiced by the Marine Corps in 2002. The Marine Corps was required by law to promote officers based upon their race.
This was exactly how it was done. I'm sorry that I don't remember the exact numbers but this is the exact formula.

200 black Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
100 hispanic Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
50 asian Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
650 white Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col

Only 100 spots for Lt Col were available. The Marine was required by law to promote 20 black people, 10 black people, 5 asian people and 65 white people. Private companies, state governments, local governments and non-profits are not allowed to engage in this practice.

6.)Are you talking about a federal contractor?
7.) Are you talking about a federal agency? Are you lying? Affirmative Action is illegal. It was replaced with Equal Opportunity laws.
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1.) false and no Im an engineer.
2.) Cant tell you that.
3.) SInce we practice AA/EO we factually do not do this, we practice AA/EEO to make sure of it so you are wrong.
4.) yes it would be illegal this is why we practice AA/EEO so we dont break the law or violate peoples rights.
5.) great story
6.) nope
7.) nope
8.) nope facts dont lie
9.) 100% false we practice AA/EEO everyday AA is part of EEO.
 
AGENT J said:
9.) 100% false we practice AA/EEO everyday AA is part of EEO.
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What is AA? How does it work? You might be right. I am trying to look it up right now. I think what I was referring was racial quotas.

I thought racial quotas was the same thing as Affirmative Action. What is Affirmative Action?
 
vasuderatorrent said:
What is AA? How does it work? You might be right. I am trying to look it up right now. I think what I was referring was racial quotas.

I thought racial quotas was the same thing as Affirmative Action. What is Affirmative Action?
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affirmative action is a racist policy instituted by the racist in the .gov to essentially hire people based solely on the color of their skin. ah HECK WHY SUGAR COAT IT TO HIRE BLACK PEOPLE.
 
AGENT J said:
9.) 100% false we practice AA/EEO everyday AA is part of EEO.
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Here is something that I found. I guess I didn't realize what Affirmative Action was. I was thinking of racial quotas. The Marine Corps does practice racial quotas. To my understanding racial quotas would violate EEO laws.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8598771_difference-between-eeo-affirmative-action.html#ixzz319zfZkLp said:
Affirmative Action

The purpose of Affirmative Action is to address past discrimination against women, individuals with disabilities and minority groups, including Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and American Native Indians. Affirmative Action involves active recruitment of qualified individuals in these groups to make them aware of job and promotion opportunities. Affirmative Action does not mean hiring or promoting unqualified applicants, which could violate EEOC laws. For most companies, Affirmative Action plans are voluntary; however, most non-construction contractors and subcontractors for the federal government must have Affirmative Action plans.

Affirmative Action Plans

Executive Order 11246 requires federal non-construction contractors and subcontractors to develop a written Affirmative Action program if the employer has 50 or more employees and meets any of the following requirements: It has a federal contract or subcontract of $50,000 or more; it has government bills of lading that in any 12-month period are expected to total $50,000 or more; it serves as a depository of federal funds; or it is a financial institution that is an issuing and paying agent for U.S. savings bonds and savings notes.
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votemout said:
affirmative action is a racist policy instituted by the racist in the .gov to essentially hire people based solely on the color of their skin. ah HECK WHY SUGAR COAT IT TO HIRE BLACK PEOPLE.
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I was looking this up. I think you are referring to racial quotas. Affirmative Action is the practice of aggressively advertising job openings to minorities but does not require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Racial quotas do require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Affirmative action is not the same thing as racial quotas.

The federal government does practice racial quotas.
 
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