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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    I don't see how the situations are remotely different.
    You're denying the existence of institutionalized and systemic unjust discrimination against blacks and a system of privilege for whites in this country. You're just denying that real racism exists. That is not a respectable position, and it makes a laughable premise for racist rants.

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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    never said there was only ONE, in fact i said definitionS as in plural. If you would like them please look it up in any corresponding dictionary you see fit. I like websters. You're welcome.
    So my point is going over your head. Let me slow this down: if there is more than one definition, then to know what you mean by the word, you need to state which definition you are using. I have no idea why you are afraid to do so.
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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I dont care who created it it is still a racist organization, racism is when a anyone that aspires to help only a certain group of people.
    Ignorance.

    Read the whole definition.

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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If a white is turned down, there are a million institutions that will accept them.
    As opposed to the only one college in the world that enrolls black people?


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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    1.)Read the whole definition. You are the one ignoring facts.
    2.)Ignorance, and ignoring context.
    3.)More ignorance. Can't you just deal with the fact that a minority (in power) is not capable of institutionalized and systemic unjust discrimination? It's not a very complicated thing.
    1.) already did and the definitions support me
    2.) I agree to deny the facts i posted would be ignorance
    3.) thank you for again proving my point and trying to use many qualifiers and to justified your failed point that does nothing to change the facts i posted.

    can you qoute where i mentioned "institutionalized and systemic unjust discrimination"? oh thats right i didnt lol

    facts remain, a black guy not hiring you only because you are white is factually racism, this fact will not change.
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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The part of the definition that specifies a system of unjust discrimination and privilege. That's something that blacks, in this country, are not capable of because they're a minority.

    If a black says he hates whites, it will never affect my ability to get a job or a fair shake in court. A single black business owner might discriminate against my job application, but there are a million other places to go, and so it has no societal impact upon me.

    If a white says he hate blacks, that carries very real implications for a black person.

    That's the difference. Racism is a social construct, with social implications. Bigotry by blacks does not meet the definition.

    how racist of you!

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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So my point is going over your head. Let me slow this down: if there is more than one definition, then to know what you mean by the word, you need to state which definition you are using. I have no idea why you are afraid to do so.
    There is a whole definition. That includes systemic implications. Racists prefer to just take (1.) as the definition and thereby equate everything with racism. This is done in order to push their racist agenda by ignoring current inequities, past events that have enduring impacts and the difference between individual bigotry and societal bigotry.

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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) already did and the definitions support me
    No, they don't. Use the whole definition.

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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You're denying the existence of institutionalized and systemic unjust discrimination against blacks and a system of privilege for whites in this country. You're just denying that real racism exists. That is not a respectable position, and it makes a laughable premise for racist rants.
    No, I'm pointing out that there are literally millions of jobs for black people.

    Literally.

    You made the point that it's not actually racist for a black business owner to refuse to hire a white person because a white person has a million other options. A black person has those exact same number of options.

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    re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    I dont care who created it it is still a racist organization, racism is when a anyone that aspires to help only a certain group of people.
    I wonder how many people of color are with the Heritage Foundation has?

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