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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I'm sorry to burst your bubble but you are living in a fantasy land if you really believe that racism does not exist
    I would never suggest that "racism" doesn't exist, MS!

    In fact I have stated on several occasions that "racism" will always exist to some extent and in some form or other_
    but
    "Racism" towards minority groups is rarely seen in Western Cultures and is inconsequential because governments and society will no longer tolerate it_

    In fact, the worst 20th Century stigma one can have attached to them is "RACIST"!

    ...and is not an obstacle the blacks must constantly endeavor to overcome.
    Can you produce an actual example of a racist "obstacle the blacks must constantly endeavor to overcome"

    I'm pretty sure there are rational explanations other than racist bigotry for the "obstacles" you alluded to_

    Do you realize the amount of racist garbage that has been posted here on this website?
    I do realize from experience that 90% of what is called "racist garbage" is actually Political Incorrectness_

    There's a whole lotta forbidden language and taboos that will automaticly get you labeled a "racist" ya know_
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    Supposed superiority is not a necessary condition for racism.
    rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/
    noun noun: racism
    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/
    noun noun: racism
    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
    Wasn't that definition 2 in wiktionary?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

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    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    rac·ism ˈrāˌsizəm/
    noun noun: racism
    the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I would never suggest that "racism" doesn't exist, MS!

    In fact I have stated on several occasions that "racism" will always exist to some extent and in some form or other_
    but
    "Racism" towards minority groups is rarely seen in Western Cultures and is inconsequential because governments and society will no longer tolerate it_

    In fact, the worst 20th Century stigma one can have attached to them is "RACIST"!
    I'm sorry, but your statement that racism towards minority groups is rarely seen in western culture is simply false. You must be living in some youthful, sheltered existence. Here's an example

    Ku Klux Klan on new recruitment drive with leaflet drop in towns across America - Telegraph

    The Ku Klux Klan is on a recruitment drive across America with a new leafleting campaign, as membership numbers grow due to opposition to Barack Obama and increased immigration.

    Residents of towns in Texas, Louisiana, Illinois and Pennsylvania emerged from their houses over the weekend to find fliers attached to their doors, car windscreens or on the front lawn declaring “The KKK wants you.”
    ...............
    Kevin Benton, a spokesman for the Rhome sheriff’s office, said the town had not seen anything like it since the 1990s and while the leaflets were not illegal, they caused concern.

    “You wish it was something from the past, that you hoped everyone had gotten beyond that,” said Mr Benton.

    On the contrary, the Ku Klux Klan is enjoying a resurgence.

    In a report earlier last year the Southern Poverty Law Centre, a US civil rights research and campaign group, found that there were 1,360 right-wing, self-styled patriot groups in the US and, in addition, around 1,000 specific hate groups - a rise in total of more than 800 percent in the number of such groups since 2008, when Mr Obama was elected.
    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    Can you produce an actual example of a racist "obstacle the blacks must constantly endeavor to overcome"

    I'm pretty sure there are rational explanations other than racist bigotry for the "obstacles" you alluded to_
    I sure can, the notion that black people are less intelligent that whites is something that blacks constantly have to deal with. It's an obstacle. I hope you don't want to put forward the notion that in reality they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    I do realize from experience that 90% of what is called "racist garbage" is actually Political Incorrectness_

    There's a whole lotta forbidden language and taboos that will automaticly get you labeled a "racist" ya know_
    So you believe the posts here that say that interracial marriage is bad?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Reread what the SCOTUS ruled. They throughout the suit saying that race WAS required as a selection criteria under the University's Affirmative Action plan. Thus proving that indeed, Affirmative Action does use race as a criteria and is RACIST.


    100% correct
    since i understood it the first time and know what it actually means theres no need to reread it.

    it says universities, not the LAW'S or based on legal EQUALITY or based on RIGHTS or based on FACTUAL AA/EEO but the universities MADE UP policies that . . .wait for it . . . BROKE THE LAW

    hence why they lost, they were NOT practicing factual AA/EEO
    thank you AGAIN for proving the facts right and your own statement wrong

    Once again facts win and the fact remains that real AA/EEO is not racist by definition. "AA/EEO makes it ILLEGAL to make any hiring, firing, promotional, training, monetary, and benefit decisions based on race among many other things" The school choose to practice somethign different and it was found to be illegal no matter the name they called it.

    Now you can easily see the mistake you made.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Oh please! Anyone that believes that should have their head examined.
    Oh, so no black can achieve great things then without AA? Really? Or did Obama only get where he is because of AA? Which is it? Can't be both.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I'm sorry to burst your bubble but you are living in a fantasy land if you really believe that racism does not exist and is not an obstacle the blacks must constantly endeavor to overcome. Do you realize the amount of racist garbage that has been posted here on this website?
    If the posts here offend you, then what are you doing here?

    And do tell, what has the "racist garbage" that's posted on here done to repress you?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Empirica View Post
    That was then; this is now__Dwelling on the past only serves to stagnate and deteriorate_

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    Obey the law and choose friends discriminately because you will be judged by the company you keep_

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    Develop a good work ethic and attitude and work hard at whatever job you do and you will get noticed_

    Never allow ridicule or rejection to culminate in blame and anger because it accomplishes nothing_

    Instead evaluate yourself and the situation to figure out what might have caused the ridicule or rejection_

    You will find that the color of your skin is inconsequential compared to these much more important attributes_

    Or you can continue on your present course and never know the true meaning of happiness and success_
    What an excellent post.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But the second anyone points that out, they're called a racist. Blacks can't be racist because they're black.
    Funny how that works, isn't it?

    People on one hand scream and yell that we identify people by their skin color, then they scream and yell when we don't identify people by their skin color.

    And yes, someone is bound to call me a racist.

    Pathetic.
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