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Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

Are Affirmative Action programs racist?


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3.) correct and this is why they practice AA/EEO

AA and EEO are complete opposite philosophies. AA is no longer practiced with the exception of the federal government. State and local governments aren't even allowed to practice Affirmative Action.
 
I wonder how many people of color are with the Heritage Foundation has?

I dont know but looks like anyone can become a member. I noted though they did not ask for skin color so does that make them racist?
 
1.) Equal Employment Opportunity is the law today. Affirmative Action is no longer the law.
2.) Affirmative Action in theory could require companies to hire unqualified candidates.
3.) Equal Employment Opportunity is more in line with Martin Luther King Jr.'s idea that men would be judged by the content of their character rather than the color of their skin.
4.)Affirmative Action takes the opposite approach of judging a person only by the color of his skin.

1.) AA is EEO today they are the same, AA is part of EEO
2.) that would NOT be AA/EEO
3.) I agree AA/EEO is that way
4.) again false thats not what it actually does by definition.
Are there people that have been caught to have programs like that and they call them AA/EEO? yes and that is illegal what they were doing and was not AA/EEO.
 
AA and EEO are complete opposite philosophies. AA is no longer practiced with the exception of the federal government. State and local governments aren't even allowed to practice Affirmative Action.

no they are not

AA is factually part of EEO and used in hiring process as i have to use them when i recruit. They are even called AA/EEO policies.
 
No there is not. You're ignoring parts of the definition.

I posted his entire definition.

Edited to add: I do not particularly care for his definition and it isn't the one I use, but it is as valid as any.
 

Perhaps if you read the definition again:

2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.

Blacks could only foster such a doctrine if the doctrine existed in the first place. As a minority power, it is IMPOSSIBLE for blacks to institute or foster such a system-wide doctrine.

As blacks are powerless to institute or perpetuate a system of privilege (which DOES exist for whites in this country), they are not capable of racism. They can be bigots (and that should be condemned), but that bigotry does not affect society as a whole, it does not permeate society.
 
The NAACP accepts all.

Find out what you can on Heritage and get back to me.

I dont give a crap! quit trying to deflect the fact that NAACP is a racist .org.
National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People.
 
You obviously are incapable of considering the learned and rational support of diversity in the university system.

There's no point in debating this with someone incapable or unwilling to recognize the opposing point of view.

I recognize it, and I completely disagree with that point of view, to the point of mocking said view for the crap it is.
 
I dont give a crap! quit trying to deflect the fact that NAACP is a racist .org.
National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People.

It's amazing what some people will pretend is racist, just to apologize for real racism.
 
1.) AA is EEO today they are the same, AA is part of EEO
2.) that would NOT be AA/EEO
3.) I agree AA/EEO is that way
4.) again false thats not what it actually does by definition.
Are there people that have been caught to have programs like that and they call them AA/EEO? yes and that is illegal what they were doing and was not AA/EEO.

Most job applications (excluding religious organizations) that I have filled out in my life has a statement at the bottom that says they are an Equal Opportunity Employer. It is required by law to treat job applicants fairly independent of their race, gender, religion, nation of origin, etc.

You know what Affirmative Action is but you think it is fun to be an a$$. I'm not buying it. You know what Affirmative Action is and you know that it is illegal. I will disregard your game of pretend designed to piss people off. Stop bulking Affirmative Action and Equal Employment Opportunity together unless your intention is to be a dishonest liar that pisses people off. If that is your goal, then carry on with your stupidity.
 
I recognize it, and I completely disagree with that point of view, to the point of mocking said view for the crap it is.

And that's why you started the thread? That's mighty small of you.
 
Such zealous ignorance.

translation: you cant support your claim

sorry reality and facts work differently than you want.

You want your opinions and your version to be the only definition people use but thats not how it works.

let me know when you can provide ONE single piece of factual support that negates these two facts. ONE

FACTS
AA/EEO is factually not racism
a black man not giving you a job because you are white is factually racism

Let me know
 
I dont give a crap! quit trying to deflect the fact that NAACP is a racist .org.
National_Association_for_the_Advancement_of_Colored_People.

Prove the NAACP is a racist organization.
 
You want your opinions and your version to be the only definition people use but thats not how it works.

Wow! Is that really the way it works for every single person including you?
 
Not that I have ever gotten the impression of.

The accusers must have some kind of proof the NAACP is a racist organization, otherwise, they wouldn't have typed what they did.
 
1.)Most job applications (excluding religious organizations) that I have filled out in my life has a statement at the bottom that says they are an Equal Opportunity Employer. It is required by law to treat job applicants fairly independent of their race, gender, religion, nation of origin, etc.

2.)You know what Affirmative Action is but you think it is fun to be an a$$. I'm not buying it. You know what Affirmative Action is and you know that it is illegal. I will disregard your game of pretend designed to piss people off. Stop bulking Affirmative Action and Equal Employment Opportunity together unless your intention is to be a dishonest liar that pisses people off. If that is your goal, then carry on with your stupidity.

1.) 100% correct which is what AA/EEO does
2.) you dont have to buy facts they don't need bought they remain true regardless. REAL AA/EEO is factually not illegal. Like i said this is part of my job so i understand it but you can keep trying to deflect since you have nothing to support you false claim if you like but it wont change the facts. Neither will your failed insults or anger lol

AA is part of EEO and AA/EEO does exactly what you describe in #1
 
Projection.

SO you cant despute those facts?? got it thats what i thought, I accept your concession and let us know when you can.
FACTS
AA/EEO is factually not racism
a black man not giving you a job because you are white is factually racism
 
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