View Poll Results: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?

Voters
82. You may not vote on this poll
  • Yes

    64 78.05%
  • No

    18 21.95%
  • What is affirmative action?

    0 0%
Page 36 of 52 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast
Results 351 to 360 of 517

Thread: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

  1. #351
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 09:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    Which I have always said that affirmative action WAS necessary at a time that some people were barred from opportunity. It WAS necessary to break down cultural barriers and get more people used to the idea that the races did not have to be kept separate. There were black people who were just as eager not to mingle the races at that time too though they weren't so much a part of the cultural problem.'

    But those cultural barriers came down a half century ago. That war was won. And now we need to stop fighting it and allow there to be peace.
    No the war has not been won because there is still quite a bit a racism in the United States, AND there are people still alive that were directly psychologically and economically harmed by the effects of the systemic racism that existed.

  2. #352
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Women get paid what they deserve to be paid. I know I do. Nobody has ever held me back because some people don't care for women and because women were treated like crap until 2 generations ago.
    Good grief, now you are in denial of pay discrepancies between sexes!

    Blacks are no longer repressed. This isn't 1956. A black man is the most powerful man in the world, and it took a lot of white votes to get him there, didn't it?
    Well there we are.....RACISM DOES NOT EXIST IN THE US....BECAUSE A BLACK MAN IS POTUS!

    Blacks are in the upper echelon of every business sector in this country. They are on the SCOTUS, in the government, in academia. They can buy homes, they can move where they choose, they can compete as athletes, they can do everything. That is a fact you can't deny.
    How can I deny it, but that is not some kind of proof that racism/repression does not still exist in the US.

    My argument isn't stupid. My argument is spot on. What are you looking for anyway? Do you want any man or woman in this country who doesn't like blacks to be shot? Deported? Tell me specifically what you expect to happen to them?
    LOL...to them? They will show themselves.

    The topic is AA.....which I am in favor of.

    You want to change the topic to the persecution of racists.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  3. #353
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Ever hear of the fugitive slave act?
    Yes, but it has nothing to do with the US government sending boats to Africa, does it? It was about runaway slaves.

    When did the US government send boats to Africa to bring over slaves, which is what Mildsteel was talking about?

  4. #354
    Banned
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Last Seen
    08-18-15 @ 09:36 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    4,974

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I twice mentioned about Jews being exterminated, and you responded both times about how Jews were involved in the black slave trade.
    That's because we are talking about what happened here in the United States. It does not mean that it was right to kill Jews. Get it?

  5. #355
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Good grief, now you are in denial of pay discrepancies between sexes!

    Well there we are.....RACISM DOES NOT EXIST IN THE US....BECAUSE A BLACK MAN IS POTUS!

    How can I deny it, but that is not some kind of proof that racism/repression does not still exist in the US.

    LOL...to them? They will show themselves.

    The topic is AA.....which I am in favor of.

    You want to change the topic to the persecution of racists.
    So your point is you want to keep AA in place. Go for it if you think blacks aren't capable of reaching the highest levels of success on their own. The very successful blacks I know didn't need AA to get there.

  6. #356
    Kinky
    tres borrachos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    New England
    Last Seen
    12-15-17 @ 03:53 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    39,234

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That's because we are talking about what happened here in the United States. It does not mean that it was right to kill Jews. Get it?
    Sure, just ignore the way they were killed by the millions. After all, a handful of them 200 years ago were involved in slave trade, right?

  7. #357
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Did the United States government send boats to Africa to buy slaves?
    Again, is that your proof that governments in the US did not allow slavery? If you have laws allowing slavery, you have acts of government allowing it.

    Stop with the semantic games, many govts in the US had acts specifically allowing slavery.

    Good grief!
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  8. #358
    Sage
    Gimmesometruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    US Southwest
    Last Seen
    09-13-17 @ 10:22 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Liberal
    Posts
    22,405

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    So your point is you want to keep AA in place. Go for it if you think blacks aren't capable of reaching the highest levels of success on their own.
    Oh, they can....eventually.....once racism is squashed and is not a part of our SOCIETY.
    The very successful blacks I know didn't need AA to get there.
    How in hell do you know this?

    Edit:

    And why do you think that your personal anecdotes have any validity?
    Last edited by Gimmesometruth; 05-10-14 at 03:13 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

  9. #359
    Sage
    AlbqOwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    New Mexico
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 08:21 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    17,568
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    A black man was voted into the most powerful position in the world, and he could not have done it without white votes. That to me says it all.

    Is there racism still in this country? Yes, and there always will be. There will always be sexism, people who don't like Hispanics, Jews, Asians, and so on. There are 300 million+ people here. Not everyone will care for everyone else.

    My uncle was in the Bataan Death March. That was probably one of the most horrific things that happened to American men in history. He told me he hated Japanese people for years after that, but eventually realized they didn't represent ALL Japanese people. He moved on, still bearing scars and barely being able to talk about it, but moving on. Was slavery bad? Yes. But it wasn't a government act, and it was 150 years ago, it was very few people who owned slaves, none of them are alive today, and today we have a black man as President. What more does anyone need to do?

    150 years ago my female ancestors couldn't vote, couldn't be doctors, couldn't be politicians, and so on. Wow. Should I be bitter about it? Nope.
    Beautifully stated.

    So I ask my liberal, pro-affirmative action friends. What is more productive, more compassionate, less racist?

    A. To treat a large group of Americans as inferior citizens who are just not capable of making it without government mandates and assistance, i.e. AA?

    B. To consign intelligent, capable people to inferior status in their colleagues eyes because those colleagues believe they got their position not because of merit, but because of AA?

    C. Or let people sink and swim on their own initiative, competence, credentials, and merit so that they finally, at last, are considered equals with their white peers?
    "I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776

  10. #360
    Fourum Addmean
    shlunka's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    Land of the sodomizers
    Last Seen
    03-18-16 @ 09:40 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    1,758

    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Sure, just ignore the way they were killed by the millions. After all, a handful of them 200 years ago were involved in slave trade, right?
    Speaking of being killed by the millions and being involved as slaves... what is your stance on AA towards Native Americans?
    Either I'm right or you're wrong.

Page 36 of 52 FirstFirst ... 26343536373846 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •