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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    But it doesn't reflect positively on the test score averages...
    Standardized tests are flawed and minorities (by way of economics) do not enjoy equal opportunity in formal education.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    good post but I oppose affirmative action since I don't believe in group guilt or group rights

    if a black was discriminated against he or she can sue under Title VII. But don't tell my son that he shouldn't go to say OSU Honors programs because some black kid with lower scores deserves AA
    Your son can go to many other programs. Blacks do not generally enjoy equal opportunity primary and secondary education as a result of economics and other factors. Without AA, many qualified blacks would have very few options.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 05-09-14 at 10:26 PM.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Standardized tests are flawed and minorities (by way of economics) do not enjoy equal opportunity in formal education.
    Affirmative Action and lowering standards do not seem to be working...

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    But it doesn't reflect positively on the test score averages...
    diversity should be based on lots of people with top credentials in different areas

    not people who are mediocre but have different skin colors

    I liked the DIVERSITY in my senior suite

    1) one guy was a Jewish kid from CA-graduated high school early and decided he needed to grow up a bit so he enlisted in the marines-earned some decorations then went to college

    2) another guy was the son of a midwest college professor. Was a chess master before he could drive. Also was a world class backgammon player and got banned in Atlantic City since he could count cards

    3) Another guy was the son of Park avenue advertising executives. A member of the SAG, he did commercials in high school and later clerked for the supreme court, and was head of the DOJ.

    4) another guy was an all league gymnast (rings) and a professional class ballet dancer. He and I were also black belts.

    5) another guy was the son of a union leader (pipe fitters I believe) second generation Italian. He could fix anything-cars, faucets, toasters.

    6) a pre med nerd who studied all the time. He had an amazing knowledge of movie trivia as well as an obsession about P-Chem

    7) me-an all american collegiate shooter who was the highest rated table tennis player in the school for the entire decade. Me and the SAG guy also won several debating titles.



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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    Affirmative Action and lowering standards do not seem to be working...
    You blame AA for US educational rank?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Your son can go to many other programs. Blacks do not generally enjoy equal primary and secondary education as a result of economics and other factors. Without AA, many qualified blacks would have very few options.
    sorry, innocent white kids shouldn't be passed over for such reasons

    and lots of black kids who get AA already go to elite prep schools etc and they still cannot make the upper level SAT scores that many white kids going to lesser HS's achieve



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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You blame AA for US educational rank?
    No, I blame diversity.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    Affirmative Action and lowering standards do not seem to be working...
    that's because they're treating the symptoms rather than the disease.
    Education.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    diversity should be based on lots of people with top credentials in different areas
    That's not real diversity. Everyone, except perhaps athletes, must meet the minimum requirements to get into a school.

    Your son being denied a single school is in not the same as dealing with racism every day of ones life.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's not real diversity. Everyone, except perhaps athletes, must meet the minimum requirements to get into a school.

    Your son being denied a single school is in no way whatsoever similar to dealing with racism every day of ones life.
    sorry, I won't support injustice directed at an innocent person to make up for injustice that happened to the great great great grandfather of some kid who is too lazy to make good grades



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