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Thread: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlbqOwl View Post
    I don't know but it is a very large group with many pages of names, titles, and photos. It appears to be very ethnically and racially diverse with numerous Hispanics, Asians, African Americans and a number who are racially ambiguous and I really couldn't tell via name or photo. Just quickly scanning just under half the group, I was able to identify 11 people who were clearly African American including the Senior Production Specialist, the Director of Marketing, Research Programmer and policy analyst, Tech Services Managr, Sr Staff Associate, Internal Events Manager and others. Or check it out yourself here: Team

    Does that help?
    Based on that logic, Southern plantations empowered blacks more than just about any institution of that time.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    How many blacks are CEOs of fortune 500 corporations? How many whites are CEOs of fortune 500 corporations?
    Irrelevant, How many CEOs do the hiring for companies?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah it is because the white guy is being turned down due to his race. that is RACIAL DISCRIMINATION
    Yeah and the following was racist discrimination

    Our new Government is founded upon exactly the opposite ideas; its foundations are laid, its cornerstone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery, subordination to the superior race, is his natural and moral condition.
    I grew up around the remnants of that s*** in the South. I've experienced mistreatment from people who believe that s***.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Irrelevant, How many CEOs do the hiring for companies?
    It is relevant. Who is in a better position to screw who?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    Irrelevant, How many CEOs do the hiring for companies?
    No it is relevant, because it's indicative of the underlying corporate power structure.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Yeah and the following was racist discrimination



    I grew up around the remnants of that s*** in the South. I've experienced mistreatment from people who believe that s***.
    you think its alright to impose racial discrimination on a white who is innocent in order to help a black who was not victimized by discrimination?



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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you think its alright to impose racial discrimination on a white who is innocent in order to help a black who was not victimized by discrimination?
    What I am saying to you is that I have worked around whites, I have been in a group of engineers where I was the only black person. I have had some of those people personally apologize to me because they assumed that because I was black that I was dumb. I have had some of those people tell me that they believe black people in general are dumber than whites. I really don't want to hear that s*** about there is no racism and AA is not needed.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What I am saying to you is that I have worked around whites, I have been in a group of engineers where I was the only black person. I have had some of those people personally apologize to me because they assumed that because I was black that I was dumb. I have had some of those people tell me that they believe black people in general are dumber than whites. I really don't want to hear the s*** about there is no racism and AA is not needed.
    years ago, 12-15 Students in my college were nominated for the Rhodes Scholarships and we were told to meet with 4 guys from the law or medical school who were RSs

    three were white-one was black (a med student). One of the guys behind me snickered to several of us--WONDER HOW THE BLACK GUY GOT A RHODES

    well fortunately I took the time to ask him. we had lunch. He was a phi beta kappa at Princeton, an all american and worked at a hospital helping disabled vets. His board scores were much higher than the average at yale med. he was the most qualified man in the room I was in. and he will have people questioning his credentials-as a doctor or RS the rest of his life



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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    To trivialize MildSteel's experiences and encounters with racism is simply to deny reality. I know that's going to be a very uncomfortable truth for some of you, but truth is no respecter of beliefs.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    years ago, 12-15 Students in my college were nominated for the Rhodes Scholarships and we were told to meet with 4 guys from the law or medical school who were RSs

    three were white-one was black (a med student). One of the guys behind me snickered to several of us--WONDER HOW THE BLACK GUY GOT A RHODES

    well fortunately I took the time to ask him. we had lunch. He was a phi beta kappa at Princeton, an all american and worked at a hospital helping disabled vets. His board scores were much higher than the average at yale med. he was the most qualified man in the room I was in. and he will have people questioning his credentials-as a doctor or RS the rest of his life
    That may be so. But there are people that would question his credentials simply because he is black, even if there were no AA.

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