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Your response wasMildsteel said
It's not a question of feeling guilty. It's a question of having a government that is fair and just. Blacks were brutally abused in the past and that has had an very detrimental effect on their present condition. A government that endeavors to correct the past evils that it inflicted on a large segment of the population is merely doing what is just, not because of white guilt.
My point is that people are not treated equally in the eyes of the law because people with money are given preferential treatment. Now you can say that such treatment is not part of the law, but in practical terms people apply the laws, and if the law is not being applied equally by people, then the effect is lost.cpgrad08 said
Government corrects this by giving the same standing in the eyes of the laws not by giving special treatment.
The point is that AA programs recognize that due to past abuse, blacks are at an unfair disadvantage. One of the crucial factors that accounts for success in corporate America is access to the corporate networks of power. Because blacks were unfairly denied access to those networks for so long, and because as a group they were conditioned to believe that they were inferior to whites, AA programs attempt to put them into positions in corporate America and government such that these difficulties can be compensated for.
I hope we don't keep going around in circles.
Bundy employs minorities, and has never taken any action against them that it any way holds them back from opportunities. He actually is evidence that AA is no longer needed. Even a man who set half of this country into hysterics with his "racist" comments employs minorities. So obviously, there is no issue.
I'm a Bundy "apologist" depending on your definition. And I am not now, never have been, and never will be a racist. Fact.
Those who have done extensive research on black Americans know that at some point following the Civil War, despite lingering racism, discrimination, and segregation, black people were the most rapidly advancing demographic economically right up to Johnson's Great Society initiatives that quite effectively stalled that advancement and in many cases put it into reverse. It was one of those good intentions producing unintended negative consequences things.
But at any case, the war against racism, discrimination, and segregation has been won. It is now time to stop fighting it. If you want to help black people overcome their 'disadvantages, then join with people like me who want to end ALL programs that divide people economically, socially, politically, racially, ethnically. Help us make this a color blind society in which everybody truly is equal or has equal opportunity to be the best they can be in our society.
A culture that demands that black people feel inferior, disadvantaged, or victimized is a society that will continue to separate out black people and keep them down instead of allowing everybody to see them as just Americans like all other Americans.
"I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it." --Benjamin Franklin 1776