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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    1.)The Federal government is the only entity that practices Affirmative Action. Do you work for a federal contractor or an agency of the federal government?
    2.)What is the name of your company?
    3.) That way we can report you for discriminating against job applicants based upon race.
    4.)That is illegal and you know it.
    5.)I was in the Marine Corps and saw the promotion list for officers. Affirmative Action was practiced by the Marine Corps in 2002. The Marine Corps was required by law to promote officers based upon their race.
    This was exactly how it was done. I'm sorry that I don't remember the exact numbers but this is the exact formula.

    200 black Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
    100 hispanic Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
    50 asian Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col
    650 white Majors eligible for promotion to Lt Col

    Only 100 spots for Lt Col were available. The Marine was required by law to promote 20 black people, 10 black people, 5 asian people and 65 white people. Private companies, state governments, local governments and non-profits are not allowed to engage in this practice.

    6.)Are you talking about a federal contractor?
    7.) Are you talking about a federal agency? Are you lying? Affirmative Action is illegal. It was replaced with Equal Opportunity laws.
    1.) false and no Im an engineer.
    2.) Cant tell you that.
    3.) SInce we practice AA/EO we factually do not do this, we practice AA/EEO to make sure of it so you are wrong.
    4.) yes it would be illegal this is why we practice AA/EEO so we dont break the law or violate peoples rights.
    5.) great story
    6.) nope
    7.) nope
    8.) nope facts dont lie
    9.) 100% false we practice AA/EEO everyday AA is part of EEO.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    9.) 100% false we practice AA/EEO everyday AA is part of EEO.
    What is AA? How does it work? You might be right. I am trying to look it up right now. I think what I was referring was racial quotas.

    I thought racial quotas was the same thing as Affirmative Action. What is Affirmative Action?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    What is AA? How does it work? You might be right. I am trying to look it up right now. I think what I was referring was racial quotas.

    I thought racial quotas was the same thing as Affirmative Action. What is Affirmative Action?
    affirmative action is a racist policy instituted by the racist in the .gov to essentially hire people based solely on the color of their skin. ah HECK WHY SUGAR COAT IT TO HIRE BLACK PEOPLE.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    9.) 100% false we practice AA/EEO everyday AA is part of EEO.
    Here is something that I found. I guess I didn't realize what Affirmative Action was. I was thinking of racial quotas. The Marine Corps does practice racial quotas. To my understanding racial quotas would violate EEO laws.

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    Affirmative Action

    The purpose of Affirmative Action is to address past discrimination against women, individuals with disabilities and minority groups, including Blacks, Hispanics, Asians and American Native Indians. Affirmative Action involves active recruitment of qualified individuals in these groups to make them aware of job and promotion opportunities. Affirmative Action does not mean hiring or promoting unqualified applicants, which could violate EEOC laws. For most companies, Affirmative Action plans are voluntary; however, most non-construction contractors and subcontractors for the federal government must have Affirmative Action plans.

    Affirmative Action Plans

    Executive Order 11246 requires federal non-construction contractors and subcontractors to develop a written Affirmative Action program if the employer has 50 or more employees and meets any of the following requirements: It has a federal contract or subcontract of $50,000 or more; it has government bills of lading that in any 12-month period are expected to total $50,000 or more; it serves as a depository of federal funds; or it is a financial institution that is an issuing and paying agent for U.S. savings bonds and savings notes.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    affirmative action is a racist policy instituted by the racist in the .gov to essentially hire people based solely on the color of their skin. ah HECK WHY SUGAR COAT IT TO HIRE BLACK PEOPLE.
    I was looking this up. I think you are referring to racial quotas. Affirmative Action is the practice of aggressively advertising job openings to minorities but does not require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Racial quotas do require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Affirmative action is not the same thing as racial quotas.

    The federal government does practice racial quotas.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    1.)What is AA? How does it work? You might be right. I am trying to look it up right now. I think what I was referring was racial quotas.
    2.)I thought racial quotas was the same thing as Affirmative Action. What is Affirmative Action?
    1.) racial quotas ARE illegal and that i snot AA/EEO
    AA/EEO are laws that make it ILLEGAL to make any hiring, firing, promotional, training, monetary, and benefit decisions based on race.

    2.) no not by today current laws, again qoutas are illegal
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    I was looking this up. I think you are referring to racial quotas. Affirmative Action is the practice of aggressively advertising job openings to minorities but does not require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Racial quotas do require companies to hire unqualified candidates. Affirmative action is not the same thing as racial quotas.

    The federal government does practice racial quotas.
    Yup unqualified people working in our federal .gov do you understand why America is toast now?

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Yup unqualified people working in our federal .gov do you understand why America is toast now?
    It's just the government. They aren't hurting anybody.

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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by vasuderatorrent View Post
    Here is something that I found. I guess I didn't realize what Affirmative Action was. I was thinking of racial quotas. The Marine Corps does practice racial quotas. To my understanding racial quotas would violate EEO laws.
    correct AA/EEO laws are not based on qoutas and in reality they apply to use all and protect us all.

    THe confusion people have is that orgs have had quotas or have hired based on race gender etc and CALLED it an AA/EEO program but its not and they have gotten in trouble for it. They tried, and failed, to say they were simply implementing an AA/EEO program but when push came to shove they were found in violation of the law.

    Now some people who are simply misinformed run with there defense and assume they were practicing AA/EEO.

    Of they have some life event or story that this girl or minority etc etc was hired over this person BECAUSE of AA/EEO and that is false. They can think that, they may have been told that but its false and not the case. AA/EEO does not allow that.
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    Re: Are Affirmative Action programs racist?[W:110]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    They can think that,
    I think it would be better if they knew the difference between Equal Employment Opportunity, Affirmative Action and racial quotas.

    I didn't know the difference until just a few minutes ago.

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