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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No it's not, and no I don't. And statistically speaking, chances are much greater that a gun inside the house will be used against either people inside the house or their friends or acquaintances than that the gun will be used in self-defense in a robbery, home invasion, or assault.

    That, sir, is likely why homicide rates are significantly higher in gun-friendly states than in gun-unfriendly states. For instance, the number of homicides in NYC is roughly equal to the number of homicides in the entire state of Louisiana...but when one adds in the fact that NYC has almost twice the number of people Louisiana does, one realizes that Louisiana's homicide rate is almost twice that of oh-so-scary NYC.
    I think you're mistaken.

    The 5 states with the highest per capita gun homicide rates are DC, LA, MO, MD and SC (in decreasing order). The states rated highest by the Brady Campaign (Ostensibly the most gun un-friendly) are CA, NJ, MA, NY and CT.
    Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://www.bradycampaign.org/sites/d...d_Rankings.pdf

    Now, Brady doesn't count DC. I don't know exactly what their reasoning is but DC is about the most gun unfriendly place in the states and it has a gun homicide rate more than DOUBLE that of the next highest state. If I were the Brady campaign I wouldn't list it either. But that's neither here nor there in these discussions. Let's look at the other states we're talking about:

    Louisiana is a pretty gun friendly state. In 2012 Baton Rouge had 66 homicides and New Orleans had 193. The rest of the state had 236. The cities of Baton Rouge and New Orleans account for 600k of Louisiana's 4.6M residents or 13% of the total population but more than 50% of the homicides. In other words you're 4x more likely to be a homicide victim in either of the major metropolitan areas than you are elsewhere in the state. That would indicate that it isn't gun laws that are a problem in LA, it's urban blight.
    http://lcle.la.gov/programs/uploads/...siana_2012.pdf

    Missouri is slightly less gun friendly than Louisiana. In 2012 there were 389 murders in MO. 113 of those murders were in St Louis and 105 were in Kansas City leaving 171 for the rest of the state. Those two cities account for 782k of Missouri's 6M population or 13% of the total population with more than 50% of the homicides. Again, this isn't a problem with gun laws, it's an urban blight thing.
    Missouri crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout

    Maryland is ranked 7th as the most gun unfriendly state and is one of only 11 states receiving 2 or more stars from the Brady Campaign. This state had 372 homicides in 2012. 218 of the homicides occurred in Baltimore. Baltimore has a population of 625k or roughly 11% of the nearly 6M total population of the state. They also have more than 50% of all the homicides. Once more, were looking at gun laws being less of an issue and urban blight being more of an issue.
    Maryland crime rates and statistics - NeighborhoodScout

    South Carolina is the last state in the top 5 for our purposes. There were 322 murders in SC for 2011 and Brady has them in a tie for 22nd most gun un-friendly. South Carolina doesn't really have much in the way of major urban areas but their homicides spike in 4 particular counties (Charleston, Greenville, Horry and Richland). Those counties account for 32% of the state population and 34% of the homicides. One interesting thing about South Carolina is that firearms seem to be used in only 67% of homicides as opposed to 80% or so in the other states we were looking at.
    http://www.sled.sc.gov/documents/Cri...20Carolina.pdf

    Based on this small sample I think you'll get the idea that gun laws ARE NOT a good indicator of how likely a homicide is to take place and that high population densities are a MUCH better indicator.

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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    No gun by the bed and I sleep on the left side of the bed.
    Why do you sleep on the left side of the bed ?

    Do you sleep on your back, side or stomach ?

    Right handed or left handed ?

    This could answere why you don't sleep with a gun by your bed.

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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    No. I just think its hysterical that if i dont sleep with a gun next to my bed "i might die".
    Do you have smoke detectors and a fire extinguisher?

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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Do you have smoke detectors and a fire extinguisher?
    Actually the one in my room is broken. I think only about 2 or 3 work in our house.


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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Actually the one in my room is broken. I think only about 2 or 3 work in our house.
    Well that explains that.

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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    I do but then again I have a loaded gun in every room in my house.

    EDIT: I'm interested in how your politics relates to this decision too.
    Yes there is a gun on top of my nightstand at night, gets locked up or carried during the day.

    In general I dont lean in any direction nor does politics have anything to do with my want to be able to protect my family in extreme cases if needed that would be absurd.
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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Cheshire, Connecticut, home invasion murders - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Bet the good doctor thought their upscale neighborhood was safe.
    It was safe. It still is safe. That was the case I referred to in my post.

    If he had a gun, that night would have had a very different ending.

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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    "Overall crime rating at University of Puget Sound is worse than most

    Safe college campuses have less crime. University of Puget Sound earns an overall crime rating of F+ when we compare reported on-campus, city, and regional crime against all other schools nationwide.

    Campus City Region Overall


    F+ F+ D- F+

    How Safe is University of Puget Sound? Explore Campus crime
    Problem is, guy, you're assuming that what goes on on that particular (not especially large) campus applies to the whole of Puget Sound. You really should get away from thinking that having guns around all the time somehow keeps the peace. They don't. From the CDC (if you go therre you might have to set the parameters that are in the map below):

    Do you keep a gun by your bed?-m586511-jpg

    And from Popular Science magazine, yes, gun laws ARE associated with lower gun death rates:

    Do you keep a gun by your bed?-bigpicmapfirearms-jpg

    Didja notice that on both maps, the states of New York and Illinois are WAY lower than what's found Down South? Why is that, guy?
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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    No it's not, and no I don't. And statistically speaking, chances are much greater that a gun inside the house will be used against either people inside the house or their friends or acquaintances than that the gun will be used in self-defense in a robbery, home invasion, or assault.

    That, sir, is likely why homicide rates are significantly higher in gun-friendly states than in gun-unfriendly states. For instance, the number of homicides in NYC is roughly equal to the number of homicides in the entire state of Louisiana...but when one adds in the fact that NYC has almost twice the number of people Louisiana does, one realizes that Louisiana's homicide rate is almost twice that of oh-so-scary NYC.
    that is because those studies-usually commissioned by anti gun scum who are trying to prove guns are bad-COUNT AS A GUN INSIDE THE HOUSE as guns BROUGHT TO THE HOME BY Robbers or invaders. In other words, if you are a gun free home and say your ex boyfriend is pissed that you have a new boyfriend and he breaks into your house while you are getting frisky with the new boyfriend and the ex shoots you both, your shooting will be counted as a home with a "gun inside the house"



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    Re: Do you keep a gun by your bed?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    It was safe. It still is safe. That was the case I referred to in my post.

    If he had a gun, that night would have had a very different ending.
    that was one of the few cases I can think of where publicly imposed horrific torture might be justified. I am ambivalent about the death penalty but I would lose no sleep if those two murderers had been broken on the wheel. Yeah, its too bad the wife completely failed to do the smart thing at the bank or that the doctor didn't have a pistol



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