View Poll Results: What should Obama do about the captured Nigerian girls

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  • Go in and find the girls right away without help from any other nation

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  • Get approval from congress then act

    7 15.56%
  • Just help the goverment where the girs live

    8 17.78%
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Thread: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    I don't advocate getting involved in any foreign business.

    It is not our concern, costs us tons of money, and gets us nothing.
    Hopelessly simplistic.

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You think these girls being kidnapped by animals is the only bad thing going on in the world?



    It is if you actually care about your country's sovereignty.
    Sovereignty is an imaginary concept that we propagate because it has utility to our civilization. It doesn't have an especial intrinsic value or worth. It's valuable because of what it does for us. More to the point I'm not sure how this intrudes on our sovereignty in the slightest. The United States is great because of the ideas we represent and champion which in turn allows us to produce a more peaceful and stable world.

    Secondly of course this isn't the only awful thing, or even the worst thing, going on in the world. What kind of argument is that against action?

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    If possible and practical.
    Oh, no. Once you set the precedent. You got to keep it up.

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Sovereignty is an imaginary concept that we propagate because it has utility to our civilization. It doesn't have an especial intrinsic value or worth. It's valuable because of what it does for us. More to the point I'm not sure how this intrudes on our sovereignty in the slightest. The United States is great because of the ideas we represent and champion which in turn allows us to produce a more peaceful and stable world.
    No foreigner is worth the life of my fellow countrymen or the tax dollars we paid.As a globalist you could care less about such things, You would probably sacrifice the life of a family member to save the life a stranger.

    Secondly of course this isn't the only awful thing, or even the worst thing, going on in the world. What kind of argument is that against action?
    So we should jump in like superman anytime someone does something horrible to someone else?
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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Hopelessly simplistic.
    Completely accurate to intelligent historians.
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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    This is exactly what should happen at the present time. It's been several weeks. We can't send in special ops to swoop them up and bring them home . . . but we can help bring the perps to justice.

    As we should.
    So you want to impart US justice on other countries?

    Or you just want the US to enforce another country's laws on it's people?

    How would you feel with another country coming on US soil to correct 'injustice'?

    I don't think so.

    There is no 'we' here, just them.
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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    So you want to impart US justice on other countries?

    Or you just want the US to enforce another country's laws on it's people?

    How would you feel with another country coming on US soil to correct 'injustice'?

    I don't think so.

    There is no 'we' here, just them.
    They asked for our help. We're giving them our help. I'm all for it. If ever there was a reason to help another country? Kidnapping 300 kids and selling them into slavery by a man who has the audacity to speak out about it ranks #1 in my book. Hunt him down. And kill him.

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Completely accurate to intelligent historians.
    That's hilarious. Anyone who claims that involving ourselves in foreign affairs: (A) Is not our concern, or (B) "Gets us nothing" is neither intelligent or a historian.

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    we dont need help with our problems from any country anyway!!!! but maybe we could get putin to make the nevada cattle rancher to pay his bill to the blm lol

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    Re: Should prez Obama try to free those captured girls in Nigeria

    I think the U.S. Military should stay out of it.

    But I think Obama should gain permission from Nigeria (or where ever these girls at being held) for privately funded groups to go in and find them.

    Of course, Obama would never do this because these groups would be competition for the U.S. militaries foreign policy.


    Btw, if such a group exists and gets clearance and I were eligible - I believe I would volunteer for it. There are few causes I would be willing to die for...but this is one of them.

    'It's better to be dead and cool than alive and uncool'

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