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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    I think someone is running back over to Storm Front to get some more faulty race based medical information and hope that folks here are as simple minded as folks over there.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    And again here is your problem

    You simply do not understand what you have read. No one has found genes that give you a disease. It's just not there. All they have found genetic variations that are associated with the disease. That's why I asked you if you knew anything about statistics. The variations that they have found do not predict whether someone will have the disease. It doesn't have anything to do with being dormant. Again the example that I gave earlier. Someone doing research may find that there is a correlation between people who buy cigarette lighters and people who get lung cancer. IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT BUYING CIGARETTE LIGHTERS CAUSES LUNG CANCER. In a similar way, these gene variations have merely been found to correlate with people who get the disease. It doesn't mean that they cause the disease. No one, I repeat, no one has yet found the causal link between the variations and the disease. If you have, that would make you the world's most brilliant geneticist. But you are not. You are simply posting rubbish and you keep repeating it.

    What you need to do is read about the missing heritability problem and genome wide association studies.
    Ok. It is clear to me that you are illiterate or are purpusefully ignoring reality, and I do not have time to teach you 7th grade biology, let alone take you out of the fantasy world you live in.

    Debates can only take place between 2 informed people.

    I have nothing to gain by educating you at the expensive of large portions of my time. It makes little difference whether you understand how things work or not. I offered you links to sources which you haven't read and I offered you lengthy explanations for laymen and I'm done. Keep believing what you believe and maybe if you wish haaaard enough and looong enough it will become reality.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Ok. It is clear to me that you are illiterate or are purpusefully ignoring reality, and I do not have time to teach you 7th grade biology, let alone take you out of the fantasy world you live in.

    Debates can only take place between 2 informed people.

    I have nothing to gain by educating you at the expensive of large portions of my time. It makes little difference whether you understand how things work or not. I offered you links to sources which you haven't read and I offered you lengthy explanations for laymen and I'm done. Keep believing what you believe and maybe if you wish haaaard enough and looong enough it will become reality.
    Please promise not to continue.....

    Go start a thread on the lunacy of "soft genocide."

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    The problem is not simply that black Americans don't represent a sufficiently large fraction of the electorate, it's that they are overwhelmingly poor. As the government tends to serve the needs of wealthy capitalists, first, and foremost, a slight demographic edge will have very little effect on the political power of black Americans. If black Americans want some measures of justice they, along with their fellow workers, white, asian, latino, etc., will have to take to the streets and fight for it.
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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Ok. It is clear to me that you are illiterate or are purpusefully ignoring reality, and I do not have time to teach you 7th grade biology, let alone take you out of the fantasy world you live in.

    Debates can only take place between 2 informed people.

    I have nothing to gain by educating you at the expensive of large portions of my time. It makes little difference whether you understand how things work or not. I offered you links to sources which you haven't read and I offered you lengthy explanations for laymen and I'm done. Keep believing what you believe and maybe if you wish haaaard enough and looong enough it will become reality.
    No you are the one that is living in a fantasy land. Before you start talking about passing the genes that cause a disease down, you first have to establish the genes are actually causing the disease. It's just as simple as that. And that causal link simply has not been established.

    Here's a quote

    With a few exceptions, however, the search for common gene variants -“polymorphisms” – associated with common diseases has borne little fruit. And when such associations have been found the polymorphisms seem to have little predictive value and do little to advance our understanding of the causes of disease. In a 2012 study, for example, researchers found that incorporating genetic information did not improve doctors’ ability to predict disease risk for breast cancer, Type 2 diabetes, and rheumatoid arthritis.
    Still Chasing Ghosts: A New Genetic Methodology Will Not Find the

    Again, read about the missing heritability problem and genome wide association studies.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    The problem is not simply that black Americans don't represent a sufficiently large fraction of the electorate, it's that they are overwhelmingly poor. As the government tends to serve the needs of wealthy capitalists, first, and foremost, a slight demographic edge will have very little effect on the political power of black Americans. If black Americans want some measures of justice they, along with their fellow workers, white, asian, latino, etc., will have to take to the streets and fight for it.
    That is a good point. Therefore the question in the first place. However, I think they can increase their political power somewhat, if they indeed vote, and use that vote wisely. Part of the problem however is that people with money have too much power. Part of that power is the power to brainwash people, which they have successfully done. That is why you see someone like Beyonce put upon a pedestal, whereas someone very intelligent like Angela Davis is confined to the margins.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    I think someone is running back over to Storm Front to get some more faulty race based medical information and hope that folks here are as simple minded as folks over there.
    Yeah, people don't understand what they are reading and then they come here and proliferate their misunderstanding to others.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    That is a good point. Therefore the question in the first place. However, I think they can increase their political power somewhat, if they indeed vote, and use that vote wisely. Part of the problem however is that people with money have too much power. Part of that power is the power to brainwash people, which they have successfully done. That is why you see someone like Beyonce put upon a pedestal, whereas someone very intelligent like Angela Davis is confined to the margins.
    That and Beyonce is attractive, and her output consists of flashy videos, and performances, and immaculately produced, nonthreatening pop music.

    It isn't simply an issue of who has more money, it's more fundamental. It's about class. The popular ideas, the political agenda is, overwhelmingly set by the ruling class, the capitalist class. Nomatter who governs, capital rules.
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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    That and Beyonce is attractive, and her output consists of flashy videos, and performances, and immaculately produced, nonthreatening pop music.

    It isn't simply an issue of who has more money, it's more fundamental. It's about class. The popular ideas, the political agenda is, overwhelmingly set by the ruling class, the capitalist class. Nomatter who governs, capital rules.
    I agree it is about class, no doubt about that. But currently class boundaries are largely drawn on the basis of money. And I think that is the fundamental problem. That really has to change. Maybe that's the question that needs to be pondered. How can the right to vote be used to change the criteria the define class.

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