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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Supposedly the black population is growing at a faster rate than whites. Will this mean that blacks will have increased political power in the future? Or is access to the political power structure too controlled by those with wealth for an increasing number of black voters to have a meaningful influence?
    Only if you actually believe that more votes = more power. In reality it's more money = more power, and last time I checked white people are still winning that game.
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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    They need to have teachers that know how to reach them, that are very motivated, that are compassionate and care about them. They need smaller class sizes and more individualized instruction. They need to work longer hours in school and have more days of instruction during a given school year. They need to be around people who are very good role models. They need to have access to computers, to educational software and to people who are actually doing the type of work that makes a difference in society so that they can see how the education they are receiving can make a difference in their lives.
    And currently they have none of this?
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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    A little scientific information can really be misinterpreted at the hands of the less capable....

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    study on genetic factors that can be associated to metabolic syndrome, main trigger of cardiovascular diseases, type II diabetes and obesity, with the goal of identifying high risk populations and influence its treatment in the most effective way. The objective was to review the genetic susceptibility of the mixed and indigenous Mexican populations to developing metabolic syndrome or one of its components, and the relationship of this risk with its indigenous, Caucasian or African origins.


    So this study focuses on Mexican populations ONLY and you wish to hypothesize that this proves your assertion inter inter- racial intermingling is genocide...really??

    At this time, this study only assert that between two different segments of the same indigenous populations they both have totally separate and distinct health conditions.
    This study states nothing concerning diseases being transmitted between races other than they would like to further explore any effect it may have on other races of people.


    Sickle cell disease is extremely common in Africa and generally speaking people of african descend carry it more so than any other racial group and mixed race babies between any race and an african-descent parent are incredibly likely to get it since again, it's an inherited blood disease, not something you gain, but something you're born with.

    And there are a host of other diseases that are more prevalent in every racial group. Whites. Asians. etc. A child of a mixed race breed is likely (not 100% but likely, as in, odds aren't in his favor) to inherit to worst genetic or other disorders from both worlds. So that's why if we'll all be mixed race, we'll all be succeptible to all the genetic disorders known to man. And that is how species go extinct.
    OMG!!!!!!
    Ok, let's address the first Mis-truth.

    mixed race babies between any race and an african-descent parent are incredibly likely to get it
    It is medically impossible for any person of any race to have children with sickle cell disease unless only the following occurs.
    1.The non-African or African parent must already have the sickle cell trait, almost every race of people on the planet Earth has some people with the sickle cell trait.
    2.The African parent must possess both genes that cause sickle cell and pass them to their children.

    So mixed race babies with Africans or African Americans ARE NOT incredibly likely to get it.

    Second Mis-truth:
    Sickle Cell Disease is extremely common in Africa
    It is most common in West and Central Africa where as many as 25% of the people have sickle cell trait and 1-2% of all babies are born with a form of the disease.
    Sickle Cell Disease Association of America, Inc. - Sickle Cell Disease is a Global Public Health Issue

    How is 1-2% "extremely common?"

    Now to my original question, who is experiencing genocide?
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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by celticwar17 View Post
    That is only part of the problem. There are plenty of things in place to increase funding and put better teachers in worse areas...
    Not enough is being done, and it usually isn't done properly and consistently long enough to make a difference. There are many examples of schools that effectively teach low income kids, none of them include decayed schools and inexperienced, underpaid and reluctant teachers. Yes, there are also cultural issues that should be addressed, but those changes need to come from within the communities, they can not be imposed from the outside. There are things that can be done by the government to help, like such as affordable preschools, ending the drug wars and police profiling and harassment of minority youth, rec centers, jobs programs, and job training.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Could I teach my child that? Yes. Is it reasonable to expect all parents to? No, but it is reasonable to expect parents to be present, work with the teachers and school system, and push for their children to excel. From what I can see, it is more a home environment problem than a school problem. All thd good schools in the world can't make up for a dysfunctional home environment.
    Sometimes a good school, a good teacher and/or a good mentor can make the difference and allow someone to overcome poverty despite a crappy home life. Giving up should not be an option. Schools need to adapt to the reality that many parents are not going to be willing or able to help their child learn. They should help those parents as much as possible, and work around them when they are a barrier to learning.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by reconmark View Post
    Is it possible for you to quote something other than Storm Front rhetoric??
    As Detroit breaks down, scourge of arson burns out of control | Reuters

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    All Hail Storm Front, when we can't use our own brains!!!!!


    Arsons are more prevalent in aging Rust Belt cities than in other parts of the country, but Detroit is in a class of its own.
    Homes that could never sell on the market are burned allegedly for insurance money,

    "When nearly 30 percent of all fires are arson or suspected arson in this state, there is a hit to policyholders' wallets."

    So folks burning abandoned buildings and doing insurance jobs are new to you???...lol
    This only started happening in Detroit when it became a majority Black city???...really?

    Tell you what, next time you want to act like you know why Detroit fail, get somebody in the background to tell you what to write.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    the black population has been about 12 to 13 percent since the vietnam war

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Could I teach my child that? Yes. Is it reasonable to expect all parents to? No, but it is reasonable to expect parents to be present, work with the teachers and school system, and push for their children to excel. From what I can see, it is more a home environment problem than a school problem. All thd good schools in the world can't make up for a dysfunctional home environment.
    Again, I just don't agree with you. It's more of a structural problem with how we are educating our children in general. And that problem is amplified with the disadvantages that some black children facedas we have discussed previously. I'm convinced most of the problems that you have pointed out with home environments can be overcome with the right educational environment, teachers, role models and resources. This notion of home environment bearing the preponderance of the blame for this lack of student performance is an excuse that has been formulated so that educational funding can be kept at a minimal, while at the same time maximizing defense spending and spending trillions of dollars to prop up the financial system. Imagine what one trillion dollars could do for the educational system in this country.

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    Re: Will Changing Voter Demographics Mean Increased Political Power For Blacks?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    So because you are unable to process the information from the links I provided and have a discussion based on the merits of the argument, you're attacking me and trying to have a conversation with me just so.
    The problem is you really don't understand what you have posted. And your comments indicate that. It appears that I understand the material better than you, and I'm not an expert in genetics. I have some scientific background however, and that's why I have a better grasp on the material than you do.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Look Midsteel. Are you capable to have a discussion based on the facts? i posted 2 sources that aren't that hard to understand. sciencedaily and a page from an NGO who works to help people with sickle cell disease and other diseases. These are both sources that are easy for everyone to understand, hence, why I didn't post info from medical papers. If they prove too hard for you, I'm sure I can dig up a wikipedia article even though I abhor using them but over there it's really for everyone to understand the basic stuff.
    Perhaps you should start posting from medical papers, if you understand them. Because your comments on the material that you have provided thus far are foolishness.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    If you're going to doubt what I said or question my understanding, do it based on the comments I made not in asking for me to present to you my diploma. Unless you're offering me a job, then I'll show you my diploma but I already have one and I'm quite satisfied.
    No, I don't need to see your diploma. I already have a good idea of what the depth of your understanding of this subject is. Since you want to talk about the comments you have made, let's do just that.

    Tell me, where the hell did you get the following absurd notion from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    And there are a host of other diseases that are more prevalent in every racial group. Whites. Asians. etc. A child of a mixed race breed is likely (not 100% but likely, as in, odds aren't in his favor) to inherit to worst genetic or other disorders from both worlds. So that's why if we'll all be mixed race, we'll all be succeptible to all the genetic disorders known to man. And that is how species go extinct.
    Either you are the most brilliant genetic scientist in the world or you are absolutely ignorant. First of all do you actually know what you posted in that article on genetics? No one, I repeat no one, has found any direct genetic cause of disease. What has been found are associations between gene variations and certain diseases. But these associations have had no predictive value whatsoever in being able to predict whether a person will actually have the disease. Do you realize that? It's just like I was explaining to someone else, some one researching lung cancer may find that people who buy cigarette lighters are more likely to have lung cancer. Does that mean that cigarette lighters cause lung cancer? No it doesn't. The article you posted on genetics, merely pointed out they had found some gene variations that have been associated with certain types of disease. Nothing more. From that you have extrapolated that crap that you just posted. But then I don't know, perhaps you are very brilliant and have some medical research that talks about such findings.

    That's the problem I have with people who come on forums like these and start posting things that they don't really understand. Then they make these absurd comments based on their distorted understanding.

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