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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Again, you dont see whats off camera. You want an assumption to be made, that Romney wasn't being sincere. Its a pretty pathetic argument, which highlights the inability of the left to make a substantive response.

    Heres Obama smiling about the fast and the furious. Hundreds of people are dead because of his administration, and he cracks a grin. What does this mean?

    Because the greatest failure we've had to gun violence, I assume he means in decreasing it, wasn't Fast and Furious that statement is completely stupid.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Because the greatest failure we've had to gun violence, I assume he means in decreasing it, wasn't Fast and Furious that statement is completely stupid.
    F&F is about much more than gun violence, its about the Presidents incompetent handling of the mess, his AG's judgement, and the continued negative impact of HIS OWN policy.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    For months the RW noise machine pitched F&F as a gun grab attempt by Obama. When that story got to sillyville the Repubs and Fox swithced to something else. At first I wondered if there was anything to it, then one speech Bohner refused to mention gun grab...then that died down and it just becamce a case of governemnt incompetence.
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    F&F is about much more than gun violence, its about the Presidents incompetent handling of the mess, his AG's judgement, and the continued negative impact of HIS OWN policy.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Well it was at a press conference about Benghazi, right before the election where he spent the time speaking in a deep and sorrowful tone bemoaning the deaths of four Americans and how we deserve a President that can keep us safe, and then he smirked about it afterwards.
    The smirk doesn't look good, I agree. But my problem with the statement, as was voiced by many at the time, is that Romney, who spoke only very briefly, shifted rather clumsily from a proper tone of regret and condolence to a very much inappropriate, especially in its timing, partisan attack. Somewhat outrageous.

    I don't have much confidence in his political judgement, and I think he had a really lousy collection of senior campaign advisors. People like Eric "Etch-A-Sketch" Fehrnstrom. Throw in that pig Sununu as a surrogate and yer in real trouble. They couldn't even run effective polling. They were shocked to lose Ohio. Rove is still waiting for some of votes to come in from Butler County.

    You guys might have heard about a book written by a campaign staffer that highlighted this very incident: Campaign Insider Book Argues Mitt Romney Lost Because Of Benghazi

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Heres Obama smiling about the fast and the furious. Hundreds of people are dead because of his administration, and he cracks a grin. What does this mean? :roll
    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    Because the greatest failure we've had to gun violence, I assume he means in decreasing it, wasn't Fast and Furious that statement is completely stupid.
    Romney's answer was kinda ridiculous. Seems like he just wanted to talk about F & F because he didn't want to say anything about assault weapons. Women don't like 'em, but the NRA does. Rock and a hard place.

    The reason Obama smiles at one point is because Romney says F & F has "been investigated to a degree." Obama knew how much time Holder's staff had wasted dealing with the Issa Circus over the matter.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Remember waking up every morning back in 2003 and 2004 reading about American troops duking it out in bloody clashes against Al Qaeda and the Taliban in Afghanistan ? NOT
    When I said we should have concentrated on Afghanistan instead of invading Iraq, I didn't mean that extensive combat operations were still required there. I meant that we should have focused on doing what we could to keep the Taliban from regaining its political influence. We spent a lot of money on the war in Iraq — about $2 trillion so far and still a lot more to be added because of veteran's benefits and the interest on the debt incurred given that we borrowed the money. Not to mention the loss to society that results from all the death and injury.

    >>By 2003 … the Taliban [was] waiting for the political climate to change in America before entering Afghanistan.

    An analysis that I figure is completely partisan and without foundation. Have you studied the strategic planning of the Taliban between 2004 and 2009? My guess is that they decided early during that time frame that they could regain a good measure of their status in Afghanistan because the Americans were busy elsewhere, and set about doing so. I figure that by the time Obama got in and was able to begin getting us out of Iraq, a lot of the progress we had made between Sept 2002 and March 2003 had been squandered. Certainly we accomplished much less during those six years than we might have otherwise.

    >>America's national security is in the hands of a community organizser who ignores the military.

    I'd say it's in the hands of the POTUS. When Bush43 was in office, was our national security in the hands of a baseball franchise owner who had been involved in some questionable financial dealings?

    >>the president’s determination that the White House tightly control every aspect of national security policy and even operations.

    I can understand Secretary Gates' concerns about this. Obama and his closest aides do seem to have a controlling nature. And I can see where a highly skilled administrator like Gates would find this to a degree problematic, even potentially dysfunctional. But I didn't hear anything from Gates about a failed foreign policy and incompetent leadership of the military. So if liberal supporters of the President will concede that Gates' criticism has validity, will conservatives agree with Gates that Obama has been an effective commander-in-chief?

    >>The community organizer had a hard-on over the Arab Spring. Upstairs in the living quarters of the communiy olrganizer the bed sheets were soiled every morning from wet dreams.

    Can I ask to be spared the puerile sexual taunts?

    Am I correct in assuming that some posters here see the Arab Spring as regrettable?

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Once again, you appear to not understand the context of the attacks. When the Obama administration decided to not send help-IT WAS NOT KNOWN WHO WAS ALIVE OR DEAD.
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    We dont know because the white house has been adversarial from the start. There were assets in Sicily that could have been there fairly quickly, and 2 ships arrived the next day. But there is much that has not been released, and thats why we need an investigation.

    Also, the response from the WH, and Clinton (who refused to cooperate) will also require investigation.

    We are going to find out what happened, I guarantee you that.
    Mrs. Clinton testified. Some people aren't satisfied with what she said.

    I'm confident that all the details of this have been brought out, either publicly or in closed session. This select committee is a fund-raiser, a base-motivator, and an effort to get somebody to say something that will embarrass the administration.

    I continue to wonder what some of the conservatives on this site would have thought of Mr. Stevens on Sept 10, 2012.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    I generally have great respect for Marines They also never leave a man behind.
    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Life is not always a John Wayne movie.
    I think about this sometimes. I'm sure we all agree that the tradition is a fine and noble one. But as mak2 suggests, life, and the special hell of combat in particular, isn't a movie.

    Speaking of the cinema, I'm reminded of a scene in Full Metal Jacket. Eightball has been sent out ahead to see what's in front of the platoon. He's seriously wounded by sniper fire.

    DOC JAY: We can't leave him out there!

    COWBOY: We're not leavin' 'im! We'll get him when the tank comes up.

    DOC JAY: He's hit three ****ing times! He can't wait that long!

    COWBOY: I've seen this before! That sniper's just tryin' t suck us in one at a time!

    Doc Jay jumps over the low wall and runs out to get Eightball. He does not survive the effort.

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    not all marines would leave behind wounded military?
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    In your case, marine is appropriate.
    I think it's important to make every effort to respect the Marine element of Marines. I've known some who were real jerks. But I was careful not to hold that against the Corps. These people walk into it, sometimes run into it, sometimes crawl into it through body parts and feces, to advance the cause of liberty and justice for all. I'd say a capital em is always in order.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Like I said, when he is forced to release information, it contradicts the WH story.
    I understand that you sincerely feel that way. I know you must think I'm blindly loyal to Obama, but I know that's not the case. Give me some examples of this behaviour on his part. You can understand my view that since yer saying it has happened repeatedly, you really should have some prominent examples at the ready.

    The other day, I responded to a comment about "Obama's Twenty Biggest Lies" or something like that. The only one I felt I couldn't refute was the idea that using the ACA website would "be like shopping on Amazon." But I realized I was completely ignorant of that comment. Turns out it falls into, for me, the same category as "keep yer plan and doctor." No lies, just embarrassing and politically costly overconfidence.

    President On Obamacare Site

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    Romney's answer was kinda ridiculous. Seems like he just wanted to talk about F & F because he didn't want to say anything about assault weapons. Women don't like 'em, but the NRA does. Rock and a hard place.

    The reason Obama smiles at one point is because Romney says F & F has "been investigated to a degree." Obama knew how much time Holder's staff had wasted dealing with the Issa Circus over the matter.
    Its amazing that the lefties here are able to tell us EXACTLY why each candidate smiled, and SHOCK!...Obama's reasons are good, and Romney's evil. You guys are truly special people.

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