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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    federal employees are ALWAYS told not to talk to the press. Always
    I agree. I've been a federal employee for fifteen years, in what I'm sure would seem like a very boring agency. No high-performance jet aircraft t' tool around in.

    Every time something controversial involving our work gets in the papers, we get emails telling us to not EVER talk to a reporter about it. It makes an impression on me cuz I have a big mouth and I figure I'm too old to find another decent job.

    On "stand down," everything I've seen indicates that Obama gave Panetta a free hand to do whatever he could. That was both of them doing their job, right? I read that some people got held up to change uniforms or some nonsense. I'm sure it wouldn't have made a difference. The Libyan government was and I suspect is today kinda weird and not really much in control.

    The logic here does seem to be suspect. The argument is made that the administration had good reason to hide things, like claiming that "AQ is on the run" while it's not. Because they are seen as having something to hide, it's assumed that they must be hiding something.

    Well, as I've said, AQ is on the run. They've been on the run since Sept 2001. Seems like every few weeks, a whole bunch of 'em get whacked in Yemen or whatever. We can't stop a bunch of guys in a neighborhood somewhere in North Africa from deciding they hate America and they're gonna take up some kind of armed struggle. I sort of fall back on the idea that there's probably not much they can do to get at us in the States. The way violent radicalism is spreading around Central Africa seems very dangerous for the people in those countries.

    I'd like to see us find a way to get this conflict wrapped up. I don't really have any ideas other than helping with political/legal/economic/social development, patience, and caution. We obviously can't tolerate murderers, but I don't think hating people gets us too far.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I seriously doubt the Republicans who keep harping about Benghazi care about the four people who died September 11, 2012. They are in my opinion using their deaths for political gain, they want to use this tragedy to weaken the chances of Hillary Clinton should she decide to run for president in 2014. They misquote what Clinton said during the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Jan. 23, 2013, they say she said "What difference does it make?" Here is what she actually said:

    "With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."
    If Hillary runs we will keep hearing about it, if not this will fade away.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    You are right, I don't know Obama is not trying to hide something. Good, exactly what I was trying to say, think about what people are telling you. Now try to think about the long standing rules that federal employees are to refer the press to the PAO. Does that mean Obama is trying to hide something? Or is it just what has always been the rule?

    Like I said, when he is forced to release information, it contradicts the WH story. And the people there are reluctant to talk because of fear of retalitation. Is he trying to hide something? I dont know-but I dont have to speculate, either-the select committee is a means to find out what happened, who knew what and when, and how it can be prevented from happening again-and thats whats going to happen, even if you lefties think its politics (and despite the administration seeking to benefit from manipulation of facts regarding the case).

    And I guess its not true, that the marines never leave anyone behind. Tragic.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Life is not always a John Wayne movie. What branch of the service was you in?
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Like I said, when he is forced to release information, it contradicts the WH story. And the people there are reluctant to talk because of fear of retalitation. Is he trying to hide something? I dont know-but I dont have to speculate, either-the select committee is a means to find out what happened, who knew what and when, and how it can be prevented from happening again-and thats whats going to happen, even if you lefties think its politics (and despite the administration seeking to benefit from manipulation of facts regarding the case).

    And I guess its not true, that the marines never leave anyone behind. Tragic.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Life is not always a John Wayne movie. What branch of the service was you in?
    Leaving behind Americans to die, after hours of begging for help, and after months of requests for increased security is reality to you?

    With the Obama administration, it apparently is.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    I agree. I've been a federal employee for fifteen years, in what I'm sure would seem like a very boring agency. No high-performance jet aircraft t' tool around in.

    Every time something controversial involving our work gets in the papers, we get emails telling us to not EVER talk to a reporter about it. It makes an impression on me cuz I have a big mouth and I figure I'm too old to find another decent job.

    On "stand down," everything I've seen indicates that Obama gave Panetta a free hand to do whatever he could. That was both of them doing their job, right? I read that some people got held up to change uniforms or some nonsense. I'm sure it wouldn't have made a difference. The Libyan government was and I suspect is today kinda weird and not really much in control.

    The logic here does seem to be suspect. The argument is made that the administration had good reason to hide things, like claiming that "AQ is on the run" while it's not. Because they are seen as having something to hide, it's assumed that they must be hiding something.

    Well, as I've said, AQ is on the run. They've been on the run since Sept 2001. Seems like every few weeks, a whole bunch of 'em get whacked in Yemen or whatever. We can't stop a bunch of guys in a neighborhood somewhere in North Africa from deciding they hate America and they're gonna take up some kind of armed struggle. I sort of fall back on the idea that there's probably not much they can do to get at us in the States. The way violent radicalism is spreading around Central Africa seems very dangerous for the people in those countries.

    I'd like to see us find a way to get this conflict wrapped up. I don't really have any ideas other than helping with political/legal/economic/social development, patience, and caution. We obviously can't tolerate murderers, but I don't think hating people gets us too far.
    I appreciate your sentiment but I don't think these whacko terrorists attacks will be ending anytime soon. Just look how many attacks since 1970! Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here are about a dozen under Bush that FOX ignored. The George W. Bush Benghazis That Fox News Ignored - NewsHounds

    Here's what the GOP doesn't want to talk about...


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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I appreciate your sentiment but I don't think these whacko terrorists attacks will be ending anytime soon. Just look how many attacks since 1970! Attacks on U.S. diplomatic facilities - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here are about a dozen under Bush that FOX ignored. The George W. Bush Benghazis That Fox News Ignored - NewsHounds

    Here's what the GOP doesn't want to talk about...

    At the very least, we dont want the mistakes made in Benghazi to happen again-because it might cost American lives. And we can do that by examining what happened there, by getting all of the facts.

    Can you at least agree with that?

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    I said earlier if there were really any assets that made sense to use I would be outraged too. I am pretty much done with you. You cannot tell reality from a damn John Wayne movie and all you have is talking points and RW noise, oh and capitalize Marine.
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Leaving behind Americans to die, after hours of begging for help, and after months of requests for increased security is reality to you?

    With the Obama administration, it apparently is.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I said earlier if there were really any assets that made sense to use I would be outraged too. I am pretty much done with you. You cannot tell reality from a damn John Wayne movie and all you have is talking points and RW noise, oh and capitalize Marine.
    The failure to attempt a rescue is just one of the failures here. There are plenty of others that require investigation. What is your problem with that?

    I generally have great respect for Marines, they are all over southern California and I even teach them medical skills. They have an absolutely impressive history and are still the meanest branch I know. They also never leave a man behind.

    In your case, marine is appropriate.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Now you are an expert on Marines because you seen a few in SoCal. You are a piece of work. FOAD.
    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The failure to attempt a rescue is just one of the failures here. There are plenty of others that require investigation. What is your problem with that?

    I generally have great respect for Marines, they are all over southern California and I even teach them medical skills. They have an absolutely impressive history and are still the meanest branch I know. They also never leave a man behind.

    In your case, marine is appropriate.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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