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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Not really, its a sign that we are able to get firepower on scene quickly, and will STAY until we get every American.

    It was something-in contrast to Obama's nothing.
    Bullets on their belts, not in their weapons.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    I am not a wikidiot and therefore not interested in your ridiculous anti-USA wikipedia propaganda.

    The fact of the matter is that Al Qaeda was in Iraq. Go to the library and read some history. I suggest reading "Operation Hotel California" for starters if you wish to know more about what AQ was doing in Iraq prior to the 2003 invasion. It was written by someone who was actually there. AQ was in Iraq fighting against Saddam's long time enemies, the KDP .
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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes and no. They are definitely pushing it over political motives from what I think, but I also think that there is likely lies and stuff that needs to be investigated on the Administration's end as well.
    Go to the GOP website on Benghazi, you'll see a link to make a monetary donation to the GOP to, uhum, investigate Benghazi, I posted it in a different thread I started. If anything, the GOP should be investigated for turning Benghazi into a fund raising event.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    I am not a wikidiot and therefore not interested in your ridiculous anti-USA wikipedia propaganda.

    The fact of the matter is that Al Qaeda was in Iraq. Go to the library and read some history. I suggest reading "Operation Hotel California" for starters if you wish to know more about what AQ was doing in Iraq prior to the 2003 invasion. It was written by someone who was actually there. AQ was in Iraq fighting against Saddam's long time enemies, the KDP .
    Likewise. I believe I'll ignore some of your posts now, much like I do other history revisionists.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    how did you get that, from this:

    Does it really matter if the republicans try to exploit that event for political purposes; since, it merely opens them up to criticism regarding their future, potential, political strategy to position themselves as the party of fiscal responsibility when it comes to our War on Terror.
    I agree with you, it's more like nonsensical gibberish.
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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Likewise. I believe I'll ignore some of your posts now, much like I do other history revisionists.
    Well, the actual history shows that AQ was in Iraq fighting both the PUK and the KDP. And even took control of Halabja in 2002. AQ wasn't merely in Iraq, they actually controlled large swaths of territory in Iraq where they enforced very strict Taliban style sharia law. Making women wear burkas in public, outlawing music, dancing and pictures.... that type of sharia.


    But of course the LWNJ noise machine will keep the ignorant ignorant regarding the truth. The US Democratic party wouldn't even exist if there were not so damn many ignorant fools out there.
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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post

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    Where does she contradict herself? What did she fail to acknowledge? When did she do this "trotting out"?
    ...
    First off ... you really should stop loading up your comments with replies to the entire DP membership and every comment they ever made.
    Know what I mean?

    Second, I'll address one of your comments to me ... Hillary said ...

    : With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans?
    What difference at this point does it make?
    It is our job to figure out what happened
    and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator. Now, honestly, I will do my best to answer your questions about this, but the fact is that people were trying in real time to get to the best information. The IC has a process, I understand, going with the other committees to explain how these talking points came out. But you know, to be clear, it is, from my perspective, less important today looking backwards as to why these militants decided they did it than to find them and bring them to justice, and then maybe we’ll figure out what was going on in the meantime.


    So which is it? Does it make no difference why the 4 Americans were killed or who did it ? ... or is the job is to figure out that very thing? Can't do the latter if you believe the former.
    And the rest of her comment reiterated that contradiction.
    Hillary is learning from her boss (at the time).
    What Obama did was make a passing comment about "act of terror" so he can later point to that if he needs to, while simultaneously getting himself and his troops to blame a video.

    He's covered, she's covered, and you bought the blanket.

    Third ... As to Hillary and the video ...

    'Two days after this attack,' said Rep. Adam Kinzinger, 'we were in a briefing with Hillary Clinton and she screamed at a member of Congress who’d dare suggest that this was a terrorist attack.'
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    The congressman appeared on the Fox News Channel on Friday, recalling Clinton 'basically, in a very loud, angry voice, [saying] "It's irresponsible to even suggest this is a terror attack. This is a YouTube video. We know that there are protests all over, and we need to be very careful how we're saying this" -- and basically chided this member of Congress.'


    Read more: Hillary Clinton exploded at a congressman two days after Benghazi for suggesting that the attack was the work of terrorists, says GOP Rep. | Mail Online

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    In response to:I asked:The response I got was:Apparently, I was misunderstood. I meant "toward what end" did people in the administration "stall, lie, and evade"?

    As I outlined in that post (#115):

    • There is a strong consensus among military experts that nothing could have been done to rescue the Ambassador once the attack was underway. So nothing there to cover up.
    • Within two weeks of the attack, both top WH counterterrorism officials and Secretary Clinton made public statements that were widely reported linking AQ affiliates to the attack. So the idea that the administration was misleading anyone in order to maintain a fiction about AQ being "on the run" simply makes no sense. Of course, the whole thing makes no sense at all since AQ has surely been nothing but "on the run" since Sept 2001.


    So I'm still wondering what it is that was being covered up.

    There was no lie. If there was. for God's sake, once and for all, let's hear it. WHO SAID WHAT that is a lie?

    Obama said it was an act of terror the next morning in the Rose Garden. The "mistake" was the CIA's decision to give credence to local newspaper reports that pointed to a protest over the video as instigating the assault on the facility. And yes, Rice was put out on television the following weekend with talking points that were designed to keep both State and CIA happy. It was taking the path of least bureaucratic resistance. It was inadequate — a mistake. But there was no lying and no covering up.



    Where does she contradict herself? What did she fail to acknowledge? When did she do this "trotting out"?



    One MORE time, where is the lie? You guys say this over and over. Fox repeats it over and over. It's certainly more than clear to me that you guys have no doubt whatsoever about this. You don't voice doubts or suspicions. You KNOW that somebody, presumably Obama and/or Clinton and maybe others, lied. So you really should agree that you will have no problem, none at all, telling me just what that big old lie is. I don't mean to be a jerk or give anyone the satisfaction of thinking that they're getting under my skin, but I suppose I am becoming annoyed. So please, do me a favour, will ya? End the mystery.

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    Is that the level of debate that I should come to expect in this forum?

    The man has committed one serious crime after another. Why has nothing ever come of it. Oh that's right, with this committee, you'll finally be able to get 'im.

    Of course, it's very easy to capture these people. You just go out there with a butterfly net, right? And how much of an expert on counterintelligence in this specific area are you? What intelligence should we be risking American lives to gather?


    Yeah, Obama had no real use for a mass slaughter of civilians in Benghazi. If you recall, that's when the coalition began serious air strikes against Libyan armour and artillery. If we hadn't stopped the loyalist forces closing in on the city, I have to wonder if Stevens might have resigned. He'd be alive, and monumental outrage over our weak, indecisive, desperate, flailing, panicking, cowardly failure to lead and respond in time to save the lives of thousands of innocent civilians would have taken the place of the monumental outrage over our weak, etc, failure to protect the life of our ambassador.

    And so you feel Israel is now threatened by Egypt. You wanted us to continue to side with a rather brutal dictator when a democracy movement was exploding in the streets of the most important Arab nation. Well, I suppose as long as we didn't do it in a weak, feckless, indecisive way, things would have turned out OK. Ya just need t' get in there boldly, with plenty o' feck.

    Speaking of John Christopher, I never did get a response to my enquiry regarding what you Obama haters would think of Stevens if he hadn't been killed. Oh well, a heroic figure in death at least.


    I don't want to continue this off-topic line, but I feel compelled to note that I have repeatedly listed Obama's accomplished goals and all you do is keep on saying he's never achieved them. I suppose I'll just give up — what's the point?

    The Democratic party has three things that come to mind at the moment: the WH, the Senate, and a higher level of party identification than Republicans.

    CIA has done this before, as was mentioned in that Time article:

    "The intelligence community’s inability to collect, analyze and assess the value of information that is not secret has been a dangerous weakness of American spook services for a long time. It’s not just that the CIA is bad at catching errors in public news reports. The agency also has a bad track record at finding and prioritizing accurate information that originates not from highly secret sources but from publicly available ones.

    A famous example of the agency’s blindness to facts that aren’t secret came when India tested a nuclear weapon in May 1998, catching American policy makers off-guard even though Indian politicians had publicly said they intended to go nuclear. That blindness has apparently continued in the age of Facebook. In the case of Benghazi, the SSCI reported that the CIA missed open source communications in social media around Benghazi that “could have flagged potential security threats." — A Benghazi Scandal That’s Already Been Revealed: The CIA Believed A Media Mistake
    Obama and his administration lied for two weeks.....claiming that the attack in Benghazi was inspired by a you tube video.....when they knew almost immediately that was not the case.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Go to the GOP website on Benghazi, you'll see a link to make a monetary donation to the GOP to, uhum, investigate Benghazi, I posted it in a different thread I started. If anything, the GOP should be investigated for turning Benghazi into a fund raising event.
    If the roles were and it was a democrat house and a republican president and Benghazi were handled similarly...the democrats would already be holding impeachment hearings.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    If the roles were and it was a democrat house and a republican president and Benghazi were handled similarly...the democrats would already be holding impeachment hearings.

    .....Uh.....do you remember W, and the wars.

    I guess I must have missed the fundraising an impeachment part, must have been covered by local news where you are.

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