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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Said as if the democrat party isn't going to take a massive beating in november BECAUSE of its lack of solutions.
    Careful, or you will be mugged by reality.
    what lack of solutions are you referring to?

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I seriously doubt the Republicans who keep harping about Benghazi care about the four people who died September 11, 2012. They are in my opinion using their deaths for political gain, they want to use this tragedy to weaken the chances of Hillary Clinton should she decide to run for president in 2014. They misquote what Clinton said during the Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing on Jan. 23, 2013, they say she said "What difference does it make?" Here is what she actually said:

    "With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided that they’d they go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, Senator."
    It would be real easy for saint Hillary to go before the select committee and put all the question to rest, wouldn't it? Why not cooperate and put the speculation to a stop?
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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Not even close buddy. I wonder if you have figured out this isn't going away yet.
    But hopefully the people that are running this Mcarthyesque witch hunt will be. The radical right has again taken farce to new heights. I smell a lot of campaign ads in the making, just in time for November. Cant' tackle immigration, minimum wage or jobs but we have oodles of time for this?

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by johndylan1 View Post
    It would be real easy for saint Hillary to go before the select committee and put all the question to rest, wouldn't it? Why not cooperate and put the speculation to a stop?
    You got to be kidding me, many on the right would take what she said out of context, like: "What difference does it make."


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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    The whitehouse has been anything but up front and transparent on the deaths of 4 Americans. They have stalled, lied, and evaded for too long.
    Toward what end? What were they trying to accomplish?

    You've said that the administration's response during the attack was inadequate, that militarily assets should have been sent to the scene in the hope that American lives could have been saved. And yes, there are some people with knowledge and experience regarding this issue who make that claim. But there are many more, from what I can see a strong majority, who believe that nothing useful could have been done.

    "Pentagon leaders knew of the September 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi an hour after it began, but were unable to mobilize reinforcements based in Europe in time to prevent the death of the U.S. ambassador." Reuters, Nov 10, 2012

    You argue that the administration was concerned that its "Al Qaeda is on the run" campaign slogan would be undermined if that organization became linked to the attack. But as I indicated, within two weeks of Sept 12, WH officials in congressional testimony and Secretary Clinton in a speech at the UN made public statements pointing to exactly that. Intelligence indicated that Libyan terrorists linked to Al Qaeda had participated in and perhaps led the attack. So what coverup are you talking about?

    I suppose you'll say "Susan Rice, Sunday morning news shows, talking points edits, document withheld until FOIA request" and argue that we need more subpoenas and more sworn testimony and no five-minute limits on questioning so we can finally dig up and expose all the terrible, cynical things those people did to cover up their incompetence that cost these four brave Americans their lives, and the partisan chicanery that misled voters in the weeks leading up to the election, and the callous indifference they showed to the grieving families as they lied to their faces and pretended to care.

    It's all a bucket of hogwash. Yes, security at the facility was such that Stevens should not have been there. But you can easily make the argument that he did a lot of things to make himself a target. He went around Libya the way he felt he had to, showing the flag and working hard to advance our interests and those of the Libyan people. He could have been killed on many occasions — walking down the street, buying a newspaper, or sitting in a restaurant.

    Some administration critics have vehemently opposed Obama's foreign policy objectives and efforts in the Middle East, with their description of an "analogy tour" that supposedly set the stage for the Arab Spring that is held to have been so detrimental to our interests. They claim we made a huge error in not offering more support to Mubarak, thereby opening the door to a government heavily influenced if not controlled by Islamic extremists, and displayed weakness toward Iran, abandoning our allies, most notably Israel, leaving them to be threatened by nuclear weapons.

    Let me respectfully ask: what would they have said about a Berkeley-educated career Foreign Service officer who started out in the Peace Corps, loved and supported Muslim culture, was sharply criticized when he was posted at our consulate in Jerusalem for his support of the Palestinians, was a great friend of Secretary Clinton, wanted to be our Ambassador to Iran, played an important role in persuading Obama to go after Gaddafi, and put State in a very difficult position because he insisted on continually risking his life by making himself such a public figure, refusing to hide in safe locations under heavy security to be protected from the gangs of murderous thugs who had repeatedly threatened his life … BEFORE he was killed? Just another misguided utopian liberal actively undermining our national security, that's my guess.

    I mourn the death of those other three guys as much as anyone, but they wouldn't have gotten as much attention if they'd been killed in some run-of-the-mill, terrorist street slaughter. When an ambassador is assassinated, it's big news. And the Right howls for impeachment. We should ignore partisan hacks that don't give a damn about our foreign service officers unless it serves their narrow political interests.
    This is a republic, is it not?
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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I got your difference right here:

    To be sure some bad stuff happened on Bush's watch. However, I once googled each one of these incidents, and in some cases, the number of dead actually include the people doing the attack. Also, in only one case was an actual US official targeted. They were basically targeting American interests.

    I would be remiss however, if I did not mention Benghazi was a **** up . . . period. No evil intent, no coverups . . . just a cluster **** . . . like so many of GW's chess moves . . . just not as bad. BUT . . . most people bitching about the 4-dead . . . really believe they are on the moral high ground. Seriously, they do. Boy oh boy though, don't you ever mention a GW screw up . . . he's not president anymore. Yep . . . for some reason, asking why they were not outraged by the Iraq war Clinton made us get into (remember, when it was going good it was Bush's war . . . when it was bad it was Clinton's fault).

    Reagan runs up the deficit and shrinks the size of our military? Carter & Clinton's fault.

    1983 bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon? Carter's fault.

    Bush 1 screws up his own presidency, continues shrinking the military, and raises taxes? Carter's fault.

    Bush-43 experiences the first recession of his presidency early on? Clinton's fault.

    Obama experiences the first recession of his presidency early on? Obama's fault (Carter & Clinton may have had a hand in it though).

    Bush-43 is president when almost 3000 are killed on 9/11? Clinton's fault.

    Bush ignores the August 2001 PDB about Al Qaeda using planes as missiles? Clinton's fault.

    Bush-43 decides to invade Iraq because Bill Clinton said there was WMD there? Obviously Clinton's fault.

    Nairobi and Tanzania Embassy bombings under Clinton's watch? Not only Clinton's fault, but one of the reasons we were attacked on 9/11, proving once again 9/11 was Clinton's fault.

    All the embassy and American interest's attacked under Bush-43? Guess who is responsible? Not George . . . that's all I am going to say . . . plus the Bush-43 administration was so honest. I mean for cryminy sake. . . Jesus was his hero and that's good enough for me.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    what lack of solutions are you referring to?
    Take a look at the promises made by the dems over the last 6 years. Compare them to now.

    Its a common error to judge things based on intent-rather look to the outcome.

    The democrat party has nothing.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    But hopefully the people that are running this Mcarthyesque witch hunt will be. The radical right has again taken farce to new heights. I smell a lot of campaign ads in the making, just in time for November. Cant' tackle immigration, minimum wage or jobs but we have oodles of time for this?
    Ah yes this old chestnut. So, Obama expanded surveillance of nearly every American. He demonized his political opposition, and his agencies targeted any adversarial media, and targeted conservative groups. His actions (and his sec of states) led to the deaths of 4 American heros, by AQ, ON 9/11, and he lied about it to the American people...but its the persecuted minority that are on the which hunt. Brilliant.

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi View Post
    Toward what end? What were they trying to accomplish?
    For a start, we are going to find out what happened, and when. Who knew what, and when. Why weren't security concerns addressed? Who pushed the video? Who made the decisions here? Why did the administration seek to obfuscate, and hide information until it was FORCED to provide it? What should have been done. What needs to be done so it does not happen again.

    Hows that for a start?

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    Re: Are Republicans Exploiting Benghazi?

    Quote Originally Posted by US Conservative View Post
    Take a look at the promises made by the dems over the last 6 years. Compare them to now.

    Its a common error to judge things based on intent-rather look to the outcome.

    The democrat party has nothing.
    The right seems to have even less.

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