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  • I am over 40, and feel I no longer fit in.

    6 17.65%
  • I am under 40, and It's a great fit.

    2 5.88%
  • I expect the party to become dominant again.

    5 14.71%
  • I am worried about the next few election cycles.

    7 20.59%
  • Who cares...Obama is Kenyan.

    4 11.76%
  • I am not republian, but watnyed to mess with your poll.

    13 38.24%
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It was all part of the same thing, all of those things came out of the hard-core religious Southern former-Democrat scene. Lots of fundamentalists abandoned the Democrats over issues like abortion and civil rights and were ripe for the picking by the Republicans who just wanted votes.
    Yeah, come to think of it. They, the Southern Fundamentalist basically switch parties in mass after Roe v. Wade. Those organizations I mention sprung up because of the abortion ruling. Yep, that and civil rights, now gay marriage has entered the mix. But unlike the 70's and 80's when the swing gave the Republicans a huge advantage, now the religious right has begun to hurt them with non-religious or should I say non-fundamentalist voters. I really never thought of it in those terms.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I don't think it's just corporate dollars though, all of the PACs are just as bad. I think we need to remove the monetary component from campaigning, make it illegal for anyone, businesses or individuals alike, to donate a single dime to any political campaign.
    I'd argue that the PACs are essentially corporate money. Sure individual citizens will donate, but I'd guarantee that the overwhelming majority of the cash invested in those things is corporate.

    However, I believe as you've said, that we should remove the monetary component for campaigning. I don't think politicians should be advertised similar to a brand new television or dish washer.

    I just think that it's going to be very difficult to do so, you'd have to make a lot of laws that I don't necessarily agree with.

    In all honesty, it'd be best if people just started to wake up and do a little bit of research on their own, rather than force the country to make new laws to fix the broken system. It's really the constituents that are broken, allowing them selves to be led like sheep each election cycle.



    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But I don't think that's the whole problem. The problem is that we've got agendas vying for control, not people trying to represent the will and wishes of the people. Most politicians couldn't care less what the people want, they're just trying to feather their own nests and get re-elected so they can keep on the power and money train for another term. Until we change that, nothing else matters.
    I definitely agree that the money isn't the whole problem, just a major component of the problem.

    The way I see it, the (corporate)corruption we've got going on at higher levels of government is really the end result of a completely uninhibited free market. It moves in cycles and basically finds the highest level that the populace will tolerate before restricting itself back to normal.

    While I think there are concrete things that could be done to right the system, I don't know that I definitely agree with many of them (on principle). Sometimes I think it is best to just watch things run their course.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    And then Congress would override anything they do and stonewall them throughout their administration. They'd leave office without accomplishing a damn thing.
    To some extent this is true, but for someone to get elected to the office of President they must have some electorate clout. Also, when it comes to congressional authority there are some limits of Congressional power.

    It's all a system of checks-and-balances, but there are definitely some areas where the executive can act independently, likewise there are some areas where the legislature can act independently.

    Foreign policy, is one area of executive power where the legislature can't only stop things once they hit the war declaring level.

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    Re: For Republicans

    I'm under 40 and it's a moderately good fit. I like the direction it's heading in some regards and dislike the other. I think it it became more governmental and fiscally focused on a national level, and moved their social focus to more of a state level, then I'd be happier.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The party is becoming degenerate. A larger and less extreme version of the libertarian party.
    The Republican Party is about as libertarian as Obama's eyebrow. Seriously.

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    Re: For Republicans

    The GOP needs to accept our role as a regional player and a national opposition party. Stick with principle even if it means never winning the White House again. Look for opportunities to agree with democrats where possible in order to get some issues advanced instead of opposing our own policies just to make their governance as difficult as possible. Become known as the party of doing the right thing even if it doesn't help us on election day. Purging voter roles, cutting early voting on the days democrats happen to vote more, reducing voting hours in minority neighborhoods while in the same states extending them in suburban areas all make republicans look so power hungry they've resorted to unethical behavior.
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    Re: For Republicans

    I wanted to mess with your poll, and then I saw the option that said I wanted to mess with your poll, so I chose that option. This makes me happy.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I am curious about a few things, and wish to poll our membership for enlightenment.
    I'm well under 40 and disconcerted about our electoral prospects.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by TeleKat View Post
    The Republican Party is about as libertarian as Obama's eyebrow. Seriously.
    Just wait.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Yeah, come to think of it. They, the Southern Fundamentalist basically switch parties in mass after Roe v. Wade. Those organizations I mention sprung up because of the abortion ruling. Yep, that and civil rights, now gay marriage has entered the mix. But unlike the 70's and 80's when the swing gave the Republicans a huge advantage, now the religious right has begun to hurt them with non-religious or should I say non-fundamentalist voters. I really never thought of it in those terms.
    Oh, I agree with you, the religious aren't doing the Republicans any favors today, but we're still left, not with a battle between the conservatives and the liberals, but between the far-right hyper-religious liberals and the far-left hyper-social-justice liberals. Conservatives are left out in the cold.
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