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  • I am over 40, and feel I no longer fit in.

    6 17.65%
  • I am under 40, and It's a great fit.

    2 5.88%
  • I expect the party to become dominant again.

    5 14.71%
  • I am worried about the next few election cycles.

    7 20.59%
  • Who cares...Obama is Kenyan.

    4 11.76%
  • I am not republian, but watnyed to mess with your poll.

    13 38.24%
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Thread: For Republicans

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    Re: For Republicans

    I am a registered Republican, even though I'm a libertarian. Sometimes I'm flat out embarrassed by the Republican party antics but I always remind myself that I'm not an actual conservative.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    The tenth Amendment.
    Which would be relevant except the federal government entwined itself into marriage rights and benefits. Once that happened states had limited power to regulate relationships between consenting adults.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    I think it more correct to say that he and I are conservatives, and you are a libertine masquerading as a conservative.
    Or that you, like Santorum, have no clue what being a conservative is.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I think when it comes to Santorum and folks like him, perhaps the classification of neo-conservative or social-conservative might apply. The third tenet of a tradition conservative is: Small Government - keeping government out of a citizens private business and lives. I think the advent of the religious right in the late 70's has changed the meaning of what conservatism meant up to that point when religion really had no or very little role in politics.
    You have to remember that Nixon's Southern Strategy attracted fundamentalist southern Democrats to the party where they took over and have ruined it ever since. They are still liberals in conservative's clothing.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Or that you, like Santorum, have no clue what being a conservative is.
    Do you regard conservatism as equivalent to classical liberalism?

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    Do you regard conservatism as equivalent to classical liberalism?
    Not necessarily. Conservatism is about small government, personal and fiscal responsibility and keeping the government out of the lives of the people, among other things. Santorum does not support that.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Not necessarily. Conservatism is about small government, personal and fiscal responsibility and keeping the government out of the lives of the people, among other things. Santorum does not support that.
    Funny how two hundred years ago government non-involvement in social issues was universally regarded as anti-conservative. So while you personally aren't making up this idea of conservative you have, it is nevertheless a made-up idea.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    You have to remember that Nixon's Southern Strategy attracted fundamentalist southern Democrats to the party where they took over and have ruined it ever since. They are still liberals in conservative's clothing.
    Interesting concept and that may have some truth to it. But I was thinking more along the lines of religious organizations forming like Falwell's Moral Majority and the Christian Coalition for the express purpose attracting religious voters to the Republican Party.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    How can people that claim they want a small government support the things social conservatives do? Sorry, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. For that matter, how can conservatives support the military complex, while at the same time wanting a small government? Again, there is no sense to it.
    Exactly. Social Conservatism is the antithesis of limited government.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Exactly. Social Conservatism is the antithesis of limited government.
    Key word, limited. For many social conservatives certain aspects of society should have laws at the government level but want to limit government in other areas.
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