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  • I am over 40, and feel I no longer fit in.

    6 17.65%
  • I am under 40, and It's a great fit.

    2 5.88%
  • I expect the party to become dominant again.

    5 14.71%
  • I am worried about the next few election cycles.

    7 20.59%
  • Who cares...Obama is Kenyan.

    4 11.76%
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    13 38.24%
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Thread: For Republicans

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Becoming? It's totally degenerate. The neo-cons are just religiously fanatic liberals. There are no conservative parties in the U.S. anymore.
    I said becoming because there are still a few conservatives in it, like Santorum for instance.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Paleocon View Post
    I said becoming because there are still a few conservatives in it, like Santorum for instance.
    Santorum isn't a conservative, he's a religious loony-toon.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But every party out there is evil, including the Libertarians. You cannot vote for any professional politician and not vote for evil.
    There is nothing except tradition to dictate that candidates must be professional politicians. One of the most ridiculous things about our gov't, especially at the federal level, is the extremely modest pay that these positions offer. A medical specialist makes more money and does not have to spend a year (or more) campaigning to get their job, which often requires a second home as well.

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    The money in politics is not from direct compensation so it tends to attract those that already have lots of money and/or will use that "public service" position to get it "on the side". The big money in politics is simply required to campaign for a job that pays poorly compared to its demands for time and travel.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There is nothing except tradition to dictate that candidates must be professional politicians. One of the most ridiculous things about our gov't, especially at the federal level, is the extremely modest pay that these positions offer. A medical specialist makes more money and does not have to spend a year (or more) campaigning to get their job, which often requires a second home as well.

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    The money in politics is not from direct compensation so it tends to attract hose that already have lots of money and/or will use that "public service" position to get it "on the side". The big money in politics is simply required to campaign for a job that pays poorly compared to its demands for time and travel.
    In the modern world, that is what we have though. People who go into politics as their primary and perhaps only means of making an income, lifelong. Unfortunately, we have a political system that doesn't just encourage politicians to become corrupted by their time in office, it requires it. You cannot get anything done, thus guaranteeing that you never get re-elected, unless you're willing to play the political game. That's why, even if by some miracle, a Libertarian candidate was ever elected President, they'd leave office a failure because neither the Democrats nor the Republicans would play ball with him. I don't care what kind of ethics one claims while running for office, those ethics vanish once you actually hold the office.

    It's what American politics has become and the only people who can change it are the ones who already benefit from it being the way that it is.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I am curious about a few things, and wish to poll our membership for enlightenment.
    I am worried that the establishment repubs still think its ok to engage in crony capitalism and sell votes. The rank and file just want honest government and conservative policy.
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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Santorum isn't a conservative, he's a religious loony-toon.
    I think it more correct to say that he and I are conservatives, and you are a libertine masquerading as a conservative.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    I am curious about a few things, and wish to poll our membership for enlightenment.
    I will not mess up your poll, I am a member of the Reform Party and I dislike both parties. Both major parties have sold their hearts and soul to huge money donors, special interests, corporations, lobbyists, Wall street Firms, and to anyone else who will give the money. Both parties use the business as usual method to govern and take care of their moneyed friends way before anything and anyone else. Both parties run up our countries debt like there is no tomorrow and both parties put off any hard decision until tomorrow afraid that if they actually did something to get our country back on fiscal solid ground it would cost them an election or two. In fact both parties think winning an election is more important than our countries future.

    I do not find it surprising at all that both major parties affiliation among the electorate is at an all time low while those who call them independents are at an all time high. When 3/5th's of all American's have an unfavorable view of both parties, that should tell them something. But it doesn't.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Santorum isn't a conservative, he's a religious loony-toon.
    I think when it comes to Santorum and folks like him, perhaps the classification of neo-conservative or social-conservative might apply. The third tenet of a tradition conservative is: Small Government - keeping government out of a citizens private business and lives. I think the advent of the religious right in the late 70's has changed the meaning of what conservatism meant up to that point when religion really had no or very little role in politics.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: For Republicans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There is nothing except tradition to dictate that candidates must be professional politicians. One of the most ridiculous things about our gov't, especially at the federal level, is the extremely modest pay that these positions offer. A medical specialist makes more money and does not have to spend a year (or more) campaigning to get their job, which often requires a second home as well.

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    The money in politics is not from direct compensation so it tends to attract those that already have lots of money and/or will use that "public service" position to get it "on the side". The big money in politics is simply required to campaign for a job that pays poorly compared to its demands for time and travel.
    But doesn't that make you pause and go 'hmmmm'? Most of these guys could make a lot more in the public sector, so why did they give it up to work for less money in Congress or the White House? Why would somebody raise and spend millions to get a job that pays a fraction of that? It sure as hell isn't because the huge majority of them thought they could make a difference. The truth is, they are making out like bandits, and if they can manage to get re-elected a few times, they will leave Washington multi-millionaires and set to make the big bucks for life.

    I started a thread hoping to generate some discussion on Peter Schweizer's latest book Extortion: Unfortunately it didn't generate any interest, but if even a small fraction of that book is really accurate--and he WILL make a person a believer--it is a real eye opener for what the permanent political class in Washington is doing at our expense.
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    Re: For Republicans

    I am still a member of the republican party, but I see it as becoming the party of unlimited corporate power on one wing and complete religous theocracy on the other wing, I would like to see a return of the Eisenhower and Roosevelt type republicans.
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