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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Every ideology on the planet has been exploited by corporations for profit. Communism may be utterly opposed to everything that a cheap garment manufacturer stands for, because that doesn't them from making a buck off Che's face on a t-shirt. The OP trying to single out feminism is inconsistent and merely projection on his part.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Every ideology on the planet has been exploited by corporations for profit. Communism may be utterly opposed to everything that a cheap garment manufacturer stands for, because that doesn't them from making a buck off Che's face on a t-shirt. The OP trying to single out feminism is inconsistent and merely projection on his part.
    What is troubling in the case of feminism is that although it purports to be against the objectification of women, it has lent itself to such objectification, and has thus allowed women to be psychologically conditioned to believe that purchasing commodities produced by corporations (e.g. cigarettes) will empower them and make them independent, when in fact the opposite is true.

    Furthermore you assertion of projection on my part is absurd because it is based on the notion that I am an advocate of communism.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    First of all, I strongly disagree with your assertion that she is free and independent. To see how this is so, if you closely examine her song, the shoes that she wears, she did not make. Someone else made them. So she is dependent on those people. What if all of a sudden there was no one to make shoes. She would have to do it herself. The house that she lives in, she did not build. She depends on others to do that. What she does do is sing and expose her body to make money to facilitate her so called "independence." And quite frankly, it is rather sad that although there are women much more intelligent and have a much more to contribute of substance to human society, they are barely known, while Beyonce is very rich and famous. It's a very backward situation.

    But all that aside, because I really hate to say those things about a black woman, being that I am a black male. Let's assume that what you have said is indeed true. The problem is that Beyonce's so called freedom and independence has come at the expense of other women who are not as fortunate and actually have to work very hard at jobs that pay very little to get by. By her activities, Beyonce promotes the idea that one can be free and independent by obtaining objects that the average black woman especially, will have to work very hard, sometimes two or three jobs, to obtain. And even in those cases, many times the fruit of such labor is only enough to be able to afford the basic necessities and not the type of Prada shoes that Beyonce can afford. So what kind of freedom is that?
    you should have told me that you are anti capitalist ,wellcome to the club

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    you should have told me that you are anti capitalist ,wellcome to the club

    yes in this respect we can claim none of us are free..
    It's certainly true that I am not a big fan of the way capitalism is currently being practiced. That said, while I think government has a role to play in insuring that people conduct business in a fair manner that is consistent with the long term sustainability of human society, I also don't believe in government setting prices and overly regulating markets. Another problem that I have with our current system is that I think people with money have far too much influence over government. I think that an intelligent class of people who have a foremost focus on the interests of society as a whole should have the strongest influence over government, rather that people who have large amounts of money.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    What is troubling in the case of feminism is that although it purports to be against the objectification of women, it has lent itself to such objectification, and has thus allowed women to be psychologically conditioned to believe that purchasing commodities produced by corporations (e.g. cigarettes) will empower them and make them independent, when in fact the opposite is true.
    Men who worked at Phillip Morris created Virginia Slimms, so blaming feminism for that is bull****. They would just as cheerfully sold a cigarette's for housewives if that is what would have made them more money. Every person in America is conditioned to buy consumer goods, so once again you are inconsistently singling about feminism without cause.

    Furthermore you assertion of projection on my part is absurd because it is based on the notion that I am an advocate of communism.
    No, its your thread blubbering about masculinity being destroyed by the media that motivated that particular comment.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Men who worked at Phillip Morris created Virginia Slimms, so blaming feminism for that is bull****. They would just as cheerfully sold a cigarette's for housewives if that is what would have made them more money.
    First of all, in some instances feminists have directly participated in the exploitation. For example

    Feminist Ruth Hale also called for women to join in the march saying, “Women! Light another torch of freedom!
    In the case of Virginia Slims, while it is true that men designed the brand, feminists such as Billie Jean King allowed themselves to be associated with the brand name by playing in and accepting money from Virginia Slims sponsored events. Not only that but the Center for Women's Policy Studies has accepted sponsorships from Philip Morris and/or R J Reynolds. One it's website it claims to be the first feminist policy analysis institution.

    The Center for Women Policy Studies was founded in 1972 as the nation’s first feminist policy analysis, research and advocacy institution.
    So why didn't such women and organizations speak out against the exploitation of women by these companies? You tell me.

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    They would just as cheerfully sold a cigarette's for housewives if that is what would have made them more money.
    Since you brought up housewives, this ad appears to denigrate the role of a woman as a housewife



    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Every person in America is conditioned to buy consumer goods, so once again you are inconsistently singling about feminism without cause.
    I have stated what is problematic in this particular instance. Do I need to repeat what I said for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    No, its your thread blubbering about masculinity being destroyed by the media that motivated that particular comment.
    Thread blubbering!

    I like your spirit.

    That said madam, no one said anything about masculinity being destroyed. What was said was asked was if their was a war being waged on masculinity. Your comment makes one wonder if that was some sort of Freudian slip? JK

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    But - you have to admit it was pretty ridiculous that it was illegal for women to smoke in public.

    WHEN was that? Curiosity is freeing - I did some research.

    Chapter 2. Patterns of Tobacco Use Among Women and Girls - Women and Smoking - NCBI Bookshelf

    In New York, a law was passed in 1908 making it illegal for women to smoke in public (Sullivan 1930; Sobel 1978). However, smoking among women began to increase, and some women smoked openly in the 1920s, as social and cultural changes lessened the taboos discouraging tobacco use by women (Sullivan 1930; Brooks 1952; Tennant 1971; Wagner 1971; Sobel 1978; Gritz 1980; USDHHS 1980; Ernster 1985; Waldron 1991). Printers'Ink noted in 1924 that World War I advanced the custom of smoking among women (Wessel 1924). Although Grace Coolidge is believed to have been the first First Lady to smoke cigarettes, Eleanor Roosevelt was the first to smoke publicly (Hoover 1934).
    So it was passed in 1908 - repealed a short time later.

    Just a silly notion - right along with prohibition that came later.

    Growing up I always thought smoking was sexy - especially when women did it. Needless to say, I started smoking when I was a teenager and I even used an opera stem for a long time.
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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Edward Bernays, the father of modern propaganda, was famous for his Torches of Freedom march. Basically, Bernays was hired by the big tobacco companies to get women to smoke so the companies could increase their profits by selling women cigarettes. To accomplish this, Bernays got prominent women, who were involved in the campaign for women's rights, to organize a giant march of women cigarettes, as a symbol of their freedom.

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    It appears that the rise in feminism can be traced to the desire by corporations to exploit women for profit.

    So the question is, have feminists been used by corporations to exploit women to increase corporate profit?

    Capital based morals for a price is to be expected under any form of Capitalism.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    Capital based morals for a price is to be expected under any form of Capitalism.
    Real morals cannot be based on capital. What you are speaking of is a business transaction, not morals.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Edward Bernays, the father of modern propaganda, was famous for his Torches of Freedom march. Basically, Bernays was hired by the big tobacco companies to get women to smoke so the companies could increase their profits by selling women cigarettes. To accomplish this, Bernays got prominent women, who were involved in the campaign for women's rights, to organize a giant march of women cigarettes, as a symbol of their freedom.

    The Museum of Public Relations



    It appears that the rise in feminism can be traced to the desire by corporations to exploit women for profit.

    So the question is, have feminists been used by corporations to exploit women to increase corporate profit?
    Yes,

    It has always been my belief that corporations are behind feminism. It makes complete sense when you think about it and it really does not take that much thinking to understand the concept. More workers equals a larger economy to profit from.

    At one point, families were able to have 1 full time worker and 1 full time to raise the children. No longer the case! Now, corporations have made it almost impossible for someone to have that option. The feminist movements goal is to tear apart the family. They are useful idiots for corporations. Corporations have funded the propaganda and steered the movement in this direction in order to profit from it. The more men and women hate each other, the more they will have children out of wedlock and all of us will have to be paid slave wages in order to survive. In order to survive we must buy things. When we buy things, we line the pockets of the very people who are trying to destroy our families.

    The destruction of the family in America is a corporate dream.
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