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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    ....you really didn't read what I posted in my first post here. I'll repeat it - you're talking about Imaginary Feminism, not the real thing.

    Imaginary Feminism is monolithic.
    This is very important. Anything said by anyone calling themselves a feminist can be assumed to be true of anyone else calling themselves a feminist. Some random thing Andrea Dworkin said in 1973 is tattooed on all IF's chests backward so they can read it in the mirror. All IFs simultaneously subscribe to the beliefs of Valerie Solanas, Catharine McKinnon, Betty Dodson, Phyllis Schlafly, Twisty Faster, and that person who wrote those weird articles about Firefly. Or, I mean, all the beliefs you know about. Don't feel over-pressured to actually learn anything about these people.
    I'm not talking about something that is imaginary. I'm talking about something that is real and the truth is that many feminists have been inspired by Andrea Dworkin. When taken into context of the fact that many feminists intellectuals have advocated a message of anti patriarchy, it demonstrates that there is a general underlying, subconscious current of misandry that pervades feminism. If patriarchy is this evil thing, then one cannot do anything but conclude that the people, men in particular, that have imposed such a system and that have perpetuated it's existence must be, to one degree or another evil. And if that is true, then there has to be, at least on a subconscious level, a certain degree of disdain for men.

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    Can you prove that none did? From several decades ago?
    Can you prove that they didn't. What I can prove is that certain women, took advantage of the situation. Not only that but certain prominent feminists groups accepted sponsorships from such corporations.

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    The core of feminism is not against the objectification of women - indeed, as I just said, there are those feminists who would say that objectifcation is fine as long as it is by choice (of course, there are other feminists who would disagree). The core of feminism is equality.
    The objectification of women contributes to their perceived inequality. Feminism has therefore opposed this objectification. If some feminists support this objectification in the case where the woman chooses it, then that is inconsistent with the feminist goal of equality.

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    See Aunt Spiker's post.
    See my response.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Feudalism is one thing, communism is quite different. Advocating the rise of communism would be suicide for large corporations.
    You might think so - and for some it might be. But for others it might just play right into monopolizing the population for sales of various things.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    You might think so - and for some it might be. But for others it might just play right into monopolizing the population for sales of various things.
    Let me put it like this, there is a very good reason that people in the US have been brainwashed to believe that socialism is the root of all evil.

    Perhaps you have heard of the great artist Diego Rivera. Here's one of his famous works



    Dang! That was awesome.

    Anyway, please note that Lenin is in that mural. When Rivera started painting it on the wall of the Rockefeller center in New York, capitalist Nelson Rockefeller ordered it destroyed before Rivera could complete it. Rivera repainted the mural in Mexico.

    BTW, speaking of Rivera, here is my personal favorite


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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Got me into looking at Diego Rivera. Here's another masterpiece


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    Trotsky and Frida Kahlo


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