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Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?[W:29]

Have Feminists Been Used By Corporations To Exploit Women For Profit?

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 42.1%
  • No

    Votes: 11 57.9%

  • Total voters
    19
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

Well look at it this way: If someone gave you a Che Guerva T-shirt would you wear it?

Why or why not?

- Exactly

The difference is the purpose: product Vs ideal. . . but in the end it boils down to appealing to someone's ideals in order to sell either an ideal or a product.

The difference is that in one case the manufacturer is taking a direct active role in promoting the ideology in order to sell the product. No corporation has directly advocated the rise of communism and fall of capitalism in order to sell Che T shirts. But corporations have directly done so with feminism, and that's the difference.
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

The difference is that in one case the manufacturer is taking a direct active role in promoting the ideology in order to sell the product. No corporation has directly advocated the rise of communism and fall of capitalism in order to sell Che T shirts. But corporations have directly done so with feminism, and that's the difference.

It's all a matter of taking advantage of an ideology to sell a product.

Feminism existed.
They merely used it.
They didn't create feminism.

Communism exists.
They merely used it.
They didn't create communism.

To a marketer: it's all the same. "Who can become a consumer if we appeal to their interest?"
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

It's all a matter of taking advantage of an ideology to sell a product.

Feminism existed.
They merely used it.
They didn't create feminism.

Communism exists.
They merely used it.
They didn't create communism.

To a marketer: it's all the same. "Who can become a consumer if we appeal to their interest?"

I doubt very seriously if you will see a large corporation start advocating the rise of communism and the rise of capitalism as they have done with feminism.
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

I doubt very seriously if you will see a large corporation start advocating the rise of communism and the rise of capitalism as they have done with feminism.

You never know. I wouldn't put it past them. Why wouldn't they?

They exploit race and gender - why not sociological ideals? If our country becomes more split regarding our ideology then you'll likely see companies choosing sides.

You have to consider scale: suddenly they had a market with MILLIONS of non-users at their disposal. Honestly: it was probably one of the msot wise business decisions they could have made.

So imagine if we fractured ideologically and MILLIONS of Americans were suddenly aligning their selves with Feudalism . . . I bet your sweet bippy you'd see it everywhere.
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

You never know. I wouldn't put it past them. Why wouldn't they?

They exploit race and gender - why not sociological ideals? If our country becomes more split regarding our ideology then you'll likely see companies choosing sides.

You have to consider scale: suddenly they had a market with MILLIONS of non-users at their disposal. Honestly: it was probably one of the msot wise business decisions they could have made.

So imagine if we fractured ideologically and MILLIONS of Americans were suddenly aligning their selves with Feudalism . . . I bet your sweet bippy you'd see it everywhere.

Feudalism is one thing, communism is quite different. Advocating the rise of communism would be suicide for large corporations.
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

....you really didn't read what I posted in my first post here. I'll repeat it - you're talking about Imaginary Feminism, not the real thing.

Imaginary Feminism is monolithic.
This is very important. Anything said by anyone calling themselves a feminist can be assumed to be true of anyone else calling themselves a feminist. Some random thing Andrea Dworkin said in 1973 is tattooed on all IF's chests backward so they can read it in the mirror. All IFs simultaneously subscribe to the beliefs of Valerie Solanas, Catharine McKinnon, Betty Dodson, Phyllis Schlafly, Twisty Faster, and that person who wrote those weird articles about Firefly. Or, I mean, all the beliefs you know about. Don't feel over-pressured to actually learn anything about these people.

I'm not talking about something that is imaginary. I'm talking about something that is real and the truth is that many feminists have been inspired by Andrea Dworkin. When taken into context of the fact that many feminists intellectuals have advocated a message of anti patriarchy, it demonstrates that there is a general underlying, subconscious current of misandry that pervades feminism. If patriarchy is this evil thing, then one cannot do anything but conclude that the people, men in particular, that have imposed such a system and that have perpetuated it's existence must be, to one degree or another evil. And if that is true, then there has to be, at least on a subconscious level, a certain degree of disdain for men.

Can you prove that none did? From several decades ago?

Can you prove that they didn't. What I can prove is that certain women, took advantage of the situation. Not only that but certain prominent feminists groups accepted sponsorships from such corporations.

The core of feminism is not against the objectification of women - indeed, as I just said, there are those feminists who would say that objectifcation is fine as long as it is by choice (of course, there are other feminists who would disagree). The core of feminism is equality.

The objectification of women contributes to their perceived inequality. Feminism has therefore opposed this objectification. If some feminists support this objectification in the case where the woman chooses it, then that is inconsistent with the feminist goal of equality.

See Aunt Spiker's post.

See my response.
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

Feudalism is one thing, communism is quite different. Advocating the rise of communism would be suicide for large corporations.

You might think so - and for some it might be. But for others it might just play right into monopolizing the population for sales of various things.
 
Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

You might think so - and for some it might be. But for others it might just play right into monopolizing the population for sales of various things.

Let me put it like this, there is a very good reason that people in the US have been brainwashed to believe that socialism is the root of all evil.

Perhaps you have heard of the great artist Diego Rivera. Here's one of his famous works

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Dang! That was awesome.

Anyway, please note that Lenin is in that mural. When Rivera started painting it on the wall of the Rockefeller center in New York, capitalist Nelson Rockefeller ordered it destroyed before Rivera could complete it. Rivera repainted the mural in Mexico.

BTW, speaking of Rivera, here is my personal favorite

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Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

Got me into looking at Diego Rivera. Here's another masterpiece

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Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

Trotsky and Frida Kahlo

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