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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    It is one of the primary goals of leading feminists to distance women from men so that they are no longer dependent on them. They see the family unit as a way to enslave and control women.

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    Damn!!! That's some heavy duty stuff. Man, these people are dangerous. Serious.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    It could be right, if there is sufficient profit in it, under any form of capitalism. only socialism claims that should not be the case for a price.
    Wrong, it is not only socialism that claims that. And the fact that you say it could be right is what renders the concept of right meaningless. A system of morals that judges that it is right to kill an innocent person, for the sake of making a profit, has rendered the notion of right to be meaningless.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Damn!!! That's some heavy duty stuff. Man, these people are dangerous. Serious.
    When we look back in history 100 years from now, we will see feminism as one of the most destructive doctorines of all time. It will also be the destruction of the US economy and its people.
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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    Sorry, you're not talking about feminism.
    Unfortunately radical feminism is not imaginary. It is real, and while it forms a small part of the body of feminist thought, it is nonetheless influential.

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    As for the OP - feminism is, at it's core, about equality. Unfortunately, 'equality' includes the equality to be exploited for profit, just like everybody else. So yes, there probably were movements under the umbrella term 'feminism' which also increased the capitalist exploitation of women. However, there are also other parts of feminism which work against such exploitation - both of women and of men. I think it's a general, if unfortunate, truth that every idea, no matter how well-meaning and beneficial, has been exploited for profit at one point or another.
    In addition to being about equality, feminism also purports to be about independence and freedom for women. And unfortunately, when feminism lends itself to corporations so that the corporations can associate the notions of independence and freedom with the consumption of corporate commodities, it does not make women free and independent.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Wrong, it is not only socialism that claims that. And the fact that you say it could be right is what renders the concept of right meaningless. A system of morals that judges that it is right to kill an innocent person, for the sake of making a profit, has rendered the notion of right to be meaningless.
    i believe you still don't understand the concept of morals.

    Do you believe it is moral to bear false witness for free under any form of socialism but not necessarily any form of capitalism?

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by danielpalos View Post
    i believe you still don't understand the concept of morals.

    Do you believe it is moral to bear false witness for free under any form of socialism but not necessarily any form of capitalism?
    I understand the concept of morals. Where you and I have a disagreement is that I don't believe that right is a concept that is so relative that it can be considered right to kill an innocent person for profit.

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    Unfortunately radical feminism is not imaginary. It is real, and while it forms a small part of the body of feminist thought, it is nonetheless influential.
    Well, it certainly exists, but the degree to which it is influential varies (unsurprisingly) with the individual. Just as every movement and ideology is exploited for profit, every movement has it's radicals. Radicalism certainly isn't a core tenant of feminism though, although no doubt the radicals - and Capster, it seems - would disagree with me.

    In addition to being about equality, feminism also purports to be about independence and freedom for women. And unfortunately, when feminism lends itself to corporations so that the corporations can associate the notions of independence and freedom with the consumption of corporate commodities, it does not make women free and independent.
    In this case, it seems equality was prized above independence. There are other situations, such as female-only marches like Reclaim The Night, where the opposite is true.
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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by MildSteel View Post
    I understand the concept of morals. Where you and I have a disagreement is that I don't believe that right is a concept that is so relative that it can be considered right to kill an innocent person for profit.
    What about human sacrifice for "free"?

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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    What you said is that corporations have marketed more to men then women, not that products are marketed to men. I would obviously have to agree if that is what you said.
    Actually - I said the same thing about women in a different post so I was trying to say that both genders are targeted as are all gender related interests.
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    Re: Have Feminists Been Used To Exploit Women For Corporate Profit?

    Quote Originally Posted by iangb View Post
    Well, it certainly exists, but the degree to which it is influential varies (unsurprisingly) with the individual. Just as every movement and ideology is exploited for profit, every movement has it's radicals. Radicalism certainly isn't a core tenant of feminism though, although no doubt the radicals - and Capster, it seems - would disagree with me.

    In this case, it seems equality was prized above independence. There are other situations, such as female-only marches like Reclaim The Night, where the opposite is true.
    IMO an equality that is enslaving is not real equality, because the notion of master and servant is based on the notion of inequality.

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