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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    It's a complicated question. In THEORY, I don't have a problem with the death penalty in and of itself in that I believe that some people have committed heinous crimes worthy of such punishment. In PRACTICE, however, with the potential of botching executions, the wildly inconsistent application of the death penalty, and the potential for executing innocents, there are simply too many issues with it for the death penalty to remain a practice.

    For the botched execution they way to fix this is by executing them differently such as by beheading or hanging.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Society is comprised of many different views...the problem with Capital Punishment is that the government puts the decision of whether a person lives or dies in the hands of 12 people. Kind of a ridiculous proposition in my view.
    Would you have court cases juried on the national level then? Everyone has to stop what they're doing to address EVERY case?
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There are no legitimate reasons to have a death penalty. The only possible one is vengence....although I would argue that this is not a legitimate reason.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No it doesn't....it represents the views of 12 people. This might be ok when determining guilt or innocence in a criminal trial, it is a much different proposition when the government is deciding whether to kill someone.
    Sure it does. The DP represents society as it is society that can get the DP removed if they wanted to. As long as it is there it is there by societies consent.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    The DP isn't designed to reduce murder... though that is a by-product.

    a) costs can be reduced by using more simple methods of killing
    b) although some may want the DP as vengeance that does not make the DP about vengeance. It is a consequence plain and simple.

    ...and life in prison does not remove the threat from society. Prison is in our society and guards and other inmates can be affected.
    Violence towards guards and other inmates by capital defendants is almost non-existent.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Would you have court cases juried on the national level then? Everyone has to stop what they're doing to address EVERY case?
    Not at all...that would be unworkable obviously. I have no issue with a 12 member jury for guilt/not guilty issues. Deciding whether to have the government kill someone is a completely different issue which is why I would never support the death penalty. I just don't believe that the government should be in the execution business.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There are no legitimate reasons to have a death penalty. The only possible one is vengence....although I would argue that this is not a legitimate reason.
    Sure there is. The DP upholds a societies view that innocent life is so precious that to take it or abuse it (rape, molestation) is such a serious violation that your life will be taken as a consequence. For those that think like me this is the only logical consequence and I get tired of those that can't grasp this logic hurling about "blood lust" and "vengeance".
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Not at all...that would be unworkable obviously. I have no issue with a 12 member jury for guilt/not guilty issues. Deciding whether to have the government kill someone is a completely different issue which is why I would never support the death penalty. I just don't believe that the government should be in the execution business.
    Really? Never?

    How about war? Or law enforcement?
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Sure there is. The DP upholds a societies view that innocent life is so precious that to take it or abuse it (rape, molestation) is such a serious violation that your life will be taken as a consequence. For those that think like me this is the only logical consequence and I get tired of those that can't grasp this logic hurling about "blood lust" and "vengeance".
    That is classic vengence. plain and simple
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Violence towards guards and other inmates by capital defendants is almost non-existent.
    If just one guard is harmed... and it happens more than you think (I know some prison guards - Sherriff Deputies) then that one is already too much. It affects them and their families. It should never happen.
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