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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Hate to say it, but individuals have virtually no importance to society at all. Sure, there are some exceptions, but if someone gets gunned down in the street, their death has no bearing whatsoever to the actual health of society.
    That is the argument of a dictator who tries to justify the extermination of innocent people. I live near Chicago where innocents are murdered every single day. Tell me how the health of that community is doing.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The death penalty is in the news again in America because states are turning to new, untested drug concoctions to use for lethal injection, and sometimes the drugs being used in executions cause complications and prolonged dying. There was a case a few months ago out of Ohio, but the story coming out of Oklahoma seems the most controversial yet. It actually delayed another man's execution.

    A link to the story is below...



    So do you favor the death penalty?

    Do you think the death penalty will last in America considering the declining availability of traditional lethal injection drugs?



    Oklahoma’s horrible ‘botched execution’ shows again why the death penalty should be abolished
    There's a case in Texas where a guy shot a lady in the face at an ATM then raped her, claiming she wanted it (after being shot in the face mind you) and murdered her. I have trouble understanding why anyone would want anything less than death for that guy.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That is true, but the death penalty is final. You cannot go back on that if you find he/she was innocent later on. At least if they are still in prison you have a chance to correct that wrong and give them some restitution for what was unjustly taken from them.
    Imprisonment is final too. Whatever years are spent behind bars can never be returned. Your lifespan is finite, every second spent incorrectly incarcerated is taken away forever and no amount of money can ever compensate for a single moment of your lifespan lost.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    What exactly is your point? Would you prefer being put to death for a crime you did not commit or be put in prison for 20 years and then be set for the rest of your life financially?
    Honestly? I'd rather be put to death than spend any time behind bars, where the crime rate is much, much higher than in the outside world.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    That is the argument of a dictator who tries to justify the extermination of innocent people. I live near Chicago where innocents are murdered every single day. Tell me how the health of that community is doing.
    Yes, innocent people. Now show me the people on death row who have never been committed of any crime, they're there for their first offense. Can't do it, can you?
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The death penalty is in the news again in America because states are turning to new, untested drug concoctions to use for lethal injection, and sometimes the drugs being used in executions cause complications and prolonged dying. There was a case a few months ago out of Ohio, but the story coming out of Oklahoma seems the most controversial yet. It actually delayed another man's execution.

    A link to the story is below...



    So do you favor the death penalty?

    Do you think the death penalty will last in America considering the declining availability of traditional lethal injection drugs?



    Oklahoma’s horrible ‘botched execution’ shows again why the death penalty should be abolished
    I think I'm more in favor of lifetime imprisonment with no possibility for parole, so the person can be reminded everyday why he or she is there.

    But, I'm not talking about a cushy prison either, no television, no cell phone, limited phone use, no workout rooms, no weight rooms, laborious work, one hour a day outside, not cruel or unusual, just enough to make that person know they really screwed their life up.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Honestly? I'd rather be put to death than spend any time behind bars, where the crime rate is much, much higher than in the outside world.
    REALLY?! You'd rather be put to death than spend even one day in prison? I think you are being silly.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Yes, innocent people. Now show me the people on death row who have never been committed of any crime, they're there for their first offense. Can't do it, can you?
    Whether they have committed a crime before or not does not matter. If you have not done the crime you are on death row for then you are legally innocent of that crime.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    So far; 55% against, 42% for.

    That's about what I figured it would be.

    So slightly more people are enlightened then UNenlightened on this.

    Last edited by DA60; 05-08-14 at 04:03 PM.

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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    So far; 55% against, 42% for.

    That's about what I figured it would be.

    So slightly more people are enlightened then UNenlightened on this.

    We are moving in the right direction, though slowly.
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