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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I favor the death penalty in cases of murder, which can be proven beyond any doubt whatsoever, and in which there is no evidence of a strong emotional basis (ie crimes of passion). Imo, if you can kill in cold blood, without having any reason to do so, besides just your desire to kill and maim, then you forfeit your humanity card when you commit the act.
    In general I strongly support it!


    but thats going by a perfect world and perfect standards which we do not have.

    Similar to like Lizzy said, not a crime of passion but in cold blood simply because that person is mentally broken, and say theres video, DNA and witness evidence. Yes I have no problem with the death penalty. I would even extend it to rape/child crimes in some cases.

    But again the issue is with the system of guilt/innocence, NOT the punishment.

    For me I can easily justify the punishment but defending the process of innocence/guilt isnt not always easy.

    Also on another side note, while we should not be botching executions things do happen and its not a reason to scrap everything.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    I find myself conflicted on this question.

    On the one hand, I find the chance of executing an innocent person extremely abhorrent.

    On the other hand, if the worst we can do to a person is imprison them for life, what kind of deterrent does that provide against performing certain acts?

    Because that's really the entire point of the death penalty and, really, any and all sentences that can be handed out - they're a threat intended to make people think twice about doing certain things.

    And at some point, even the threat of life without the possibility of parole won't stop a sufficiently motivated individual.

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    On another note, how hard do we try to rehabilitate convicts these days? I read about how a portion of crime is committed by released prisoners, in many cases with help or knowledge gained in prison.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Its inhumane
    Right. This individual tortured and murdered thousands of his own people. He got off easy, but I suppose people like you believe he should have had an airconditioned jail cell, three healthy meals each day, healthcare, exercise, and entertainment instead. Ridiculous.



    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    I did see it and i found it disturbing as well.

    yes, poor mass murderer.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    That's basically exactly what the state is saying.

    There is no justification. These are people who are in custody, they are locked down, they have been removed from society. There is no justification for killing them. The burden of proof always needs to be on the side of killing, I don't neef to prove why someone shouldn't be killed, and that burden is very high.
    There sure is justification. They murdered, raped or molested an innocent person. For that fact they forfeit their right to life as a consequence. Simple.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by NGNM85 View Post
    If state-sanctioned murder is not barbaric, what is? To put it in starker relief; can you honestly say that state-sanctioned murder is civilized?
    It is not civilized but it is a necessity that must be done in order to uphold the value that a society places on life (innocent).
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    It is not civilized but it is a necessity that must be done in order to uphold the value that a society places on life (innocent).
    There's this sci-fi book series wherein one nation-state uses...harsh...sentences.

    They started somewhere around hard labor, and got harsher from there, with most major crimes ending in execution, and the worst ones working up to and including impalement as a form of execution.

    Either the author was quite good at making a fictional world, or he has some kinda extreme views on capital punishment.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    It's not the govt's job to hold anything sacred. At all. Nothing. No one. It *explicitly* is instructed not to, nor is it any of 'its' business.
    I guess it depends on what is meant by the term *sacred*. If by sacred we mean something that is to be worshipped religiously then I agree. If we mean sacred as in something that is considered with respect and importance then I disagree. Obviously, the Founders had written the Constitution with the mindset that life was "sacred" as well as certain individual freedoms such as speech and property.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Alyssa View Post
    I prefer permanently removed. But since many people don't even want to hurt a murderer's feelings, I suppose I'll settle for imprisoned until overcrowding.
    It has nothing to do with the murderer's feelings.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    The same is true of people who get put in prison. There are lots of people behind bars that never committed the crime for which they were convicted. I don't see anyone wanting to close the prisons because of it though.
    That is true, but the death penalty is final. You cannot go back on that if you find he/she was innocent later on. At least if they are still in prison you have a chance to correct that wrong and give them some restitution for what was unjustly taken from them.
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    Re: Death Penalty, for or against

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Doesn't do him any good to waste the best years of his life behind bars either.
    What exactly is your point? Would you prefer being put to death for a crime you did not commit or be put in prison for 20 years and then be set for the rest of your life financially?
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